CA CA - Bryce Laspisa, 19, Castaic, 30 Aug 2013 - #5

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    Please continue here and remember the rules. You can find them right here: The Rules - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community AND don't overlook these!!!!

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    From Thread #4, what's in and what's out:

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    Misdemeanor drug conviction in 2012

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    Supposition on additional time in supervision after the 12 months as it was not supported in original link

    Rumor that his laptop was wiped. This is not from a verified source.

    Supposition on who gave him money to pay for his fine for the drug conviction.

    Info from Port Orford, OR Facebook that has been removed about LE possibly meeting Bryce.


    Let's remember that Websleuths is victim friendly. Bryce is a victim and so is his family. We do not gossip or speculate so that if/when this young man comes home, rumors and rampant speculation meets him.


     
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    Please continue here...
     
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    Someone posted on the Find Bryce FB page that her husband handled the bloodhounds that were brought in approx. 10 days after Bryce's truck was found and that the dogs indicated that Bryce walked (and swam?) out of the Lake area, up to Lake Hughes Road and towards I5.

    (I would include a link but don't know how to for a FB post....just the general page. The comment was posted two hours ago under the "To expand on my brother Brian's update" post.)
     
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    well I am disappointed in what we've been told, but with the new evidence of Bryce's arrest I believe he is away willingly...
     
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    Will Caron's previous posts before she was a verified insider be restored?

    TIA
     
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    Let me take a look, I believe that was an oversight...
     
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    But he might be alive, due to this info...whereas I did not feel he was before.
     
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    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    I don't know that he has to do anything else but the charge does not yet read as dismissed, which may mean he has something else to complete or just an official hearing date or maybe the system hasn't been updated yet. but it showed his supervision was completed.

    As to the second question, it is possible that drug testing can be a condition of supervision, but in my experience for a misdemeanor possession charge, that is highly, highly unlikely that he would be subject to random testing. I strongly feel that is not a possibility. Marijuana is just not that big of a deal in our country and even if it was something stronger, in a such a small amount, a drug testing requirement would be unusual. That kind of thing usually happens with repeat offenders or people charged with other crimes who blame the criminal activity on drug use. Here's a link to possible conditions: http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=073000050K5-6-3.1

    Actually, I should have said that someone with such a charge could be fined UP TO $2,500.00. Not all cases would carry a fine up to that amount. I don't know why Bryce was supposed to pay $7,500.00. In my experience, additional charges in such case4s would be due to additional costs - not fines. Like you actually have to pay to be in a diversion program and sometimes conditions of supervision include restitution for something, like if a person is arrested for fighting and maybe breaking out a car window, and they're found with pot. Perhaps all the charges will be dropped except the pot charge, as long as the person agrees to pay restitution in a certain amount, as part of a plea deal. That's the kind of thing I see happening in my law partner's criminal cases all the time.

    I can tell you (as in everyone) this - this was NOT a serious charge and this kid didn't do anything major. If he had, there would be little chance of a plea downward like that. AS we all know, teens get into trouble at times. We all hope it won't be ours that do it but it happens and it doesn't mean they are bad kids or heading toward a life of crime or whatever. You should see the nice young people who come through our office. But young people can be very stupid and make mistakes. I see nothing to suggest Bryce did anything worse than disappoint his folks with that charge and the conduct that led up to it. He doesn't have the smell of a serious criminal to me AT ALL. And I see people who do on a regular basis, when I make minor appearances for my law partner. (P.S., they are usually in custody and don't make bail and I absolutely hate to go into the holding tanks or jail to see these guys. It's totally freaky and scary).
     
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    All of Caron's posts except one have been approved again. I also tried to make sure any responses were approved as well.
     
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    Awesome!!!
     
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    Here are the fines and fees explained in more detail gitana if it helps

    https://www.judici.com/courts/cases...J&ocl=IL078015J,2012CM73,IL078015JL2012CM73D1
     
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    They are the fines incurred by BL...you can see them broken out if you go to the link of the case.
     
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    Tried that, keep getting an error message. But thank you for clarification. Trauma center? Violent crime? :scared:

    ETA: I'll try in a different browser. Thank you again.
     
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