Discussion in 'Elisa Lam' started by bessie, Feb 22, 2013.
yes, several sources that went in said there were no cameras in the hallway..
I don't see her behavior as consistent with that. When she peeks out in the hall and hides in the corner of the elevator, it looks like she might be afraid of someone coming. But then she sort of playfully hops out of the elevator, does a two-step in and out of the elevator and checks herself out in the mirror.
Then, rather than pleading for her life (pleading would normally have the palms facing up) she seems to be making what many have described as a petting or swimming motion with her hands.
And when she finally leaves, she seems to sort of casually walk away, as if she got bored of this seemingly defective elevator and empty hallway, or else forgot what she was doing before.
That's why I think a friend of hers thought she must have been slipped a drug of some sort, as mentioned in an AppleDailyEnglish report on youtube.
And an expert on drugged behavior in the LA Weekly thought her behavior suggested that she had ingested Ecstasy, or something similar. http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/...s_ecstasy_strange_behavior_trinka_porrata.php ... And there is the Ambien sleepwalking hypothesis, which is really a variant on the theory that she was drugged.
Certain segments of the video might suggest that she was scared of something, but the video as a whole doesn't, as the body language expert thought. http://www.bodylanguagesuccess.com/2013/02/nonverbal-communication-analysis-2313.html
All of this suggests to me that she was not in her right mind in the video. Perhaps she'd been slipped something without her knowledge. And a young woman alone in such a state, wandering the halls of a sketchy place like the Cecil late at night, is in serious danger.
Okay this is my attempt at translating and making sense of it (and this is for page 96 of the forum) :
The guy and his friend both checked into Cecil hotel after it reopened to the public. They asked for a room under the guise of being international students and they asked the reception to specifically give them a top floor room so they can appreciate the scenery of downtown LA from a high vantage point.
But they were told by reception that the highest floor they have is on the 9th floor, so reluctantly, the guy and his friend took a room on the 9th floor.
They asked reception if the lobby is staffed 24 hrs. The answer to their question was "yes".
In the first picture you can see the 2 elevators of the hotel. These are the *only* elevators in the entire hotel.
In the second picture, you see the fire escape plan in the hotel.
After the 2 guys went to their 9th floor room, they spent time there discussing their plans and what to do next. Afterwards, they went straight to the 14th floor.
It has to be said that the standards of accomodation in the hotel were really low. When we came to this hotel, rates have already gone up to 70 a night. Yet the accomodation standards of our room were not even on par with a typical motel. Because describing the condition of our room is not the purpose of our post here, we will not be posting any pictures of our room. We will post them however, if someone is interested in seeing them.
In the 3rd picture we see the floor plan/fire escape plan of the 14th floor. It looks similar to the floor plan/fire escape plan of the 9th floor. The red spot in the picture marks the corresponding room where we stayed in on the 9th floor. But everything else in the 14th floor floorplan is similar to the 9th floor floorplan.
Thanks for posting and welcome to the forum!
I'm not sure if Elisa is truly wearing heels in the video though. Looks to me like strappy sandals/flats? Do you think she would wear strappy sandals/flats on such a trip? Are you in contact with her family and close friends?
Sorry if I'm asking a lot of questions. But its great to hear from someone who actually has had real life contact with her before
there's one person on that site that thinks it looks like EL's watch which i don't think it's a match. but yes, that's what they are suggesting..
Any conspiracy theories that caught your attention?
Do they think the LAPD is in on a cover-up or just Cecil Hotel?
This would be Elisa's first person perspective of the elevator ride.
Welcome! To me it looks like she is wearing flat sandals, I really don't see any high heels. Opinions?
I know it's off topic but those are horrible feet :-/
Do we have confirmation the time stamp was edited out by LE? I'm still trying to catch up here and haven't had the time to read all posts.
That's a great video... Made my hair stand on end a bit watching it...
Okay so the 10th floor button goes red when pressed? And only the 10th floor button? All the other buttons green when pressed.
Guy taking the video was on the 14th floor so the 14th floor button comes on and blinks off soon after pressing.
If Elisa was on the 15th floor that light would stay on. Anyway, I have not seen a video of someone going onto the 15th floor and demonstrating how when the buttons on the middle of the panel are all pressed the 14th floor button would stay on.
Is the 15th floor out of bounds? Has no one ever been to the 15th floor to take a video or pictures of it?
I'm pretty convinced now that Elisa was on the 14th floor in the CCTV footage.
Unless someone comes along and posts a video or pics of being on the 15th floor and using the elevator.
Well, she did seem to be a big fan of that movie called Drive? I don't know much about it, but she mentioned it on her blog and that postcard and I believe it is set in that area.
However it is highly possible that she went to meet someone from the internet there, too.
Is the time stamp edited out or just blurry?
You know I was watching the video last night again. I can see clearly when the seconds part of the timer turns "11". That helps me see how the subsequent numbers "12", "13", etc. look like.
From that, I found that the time stamp of the beginning of the video actually shows 1:22 am.
I am pretty sure of that.
You've made a huge error in basing your theory off of this premise.
I'm married to a Chinese woman I met while working in Malaysia. Having spent countless hours with her (obviously) and her family and others in my travels I can tell you that Chinese women are incredibly strong willed and not submissive at all. I think you've confused being polite, hard working and treating others with respect for submission, which would be a horrible mistake, not only in this thread but life in general
Yes it has been determined by the people that visited the hotel that Elisa was in fact on the 14th floor w/ enough evidence to support it.
Can you provide a link to info that Elisa had tuberculosis? I missed that. Also, I have not heard of a water borne TB. Can you give more info on that?
Finger print powder. The lower photo shows the batch from a different angle than the top and there are still faint marks there. Also, rain would wash them away quite a bit which is why I think they are fainter in the second photo.
I agree except how will you know if the investigation is inadequate unless LE briefs us on everything they did?
Hi Binocular. Welcome!!!!!!!
In order to post as an "insider" (like a friend of Elisa's), you have to be verified by the administration.
Also, Elisa's family has not stated the video wasnt their daughter. Further, the police would have no reason to post videos of someone else. In the abscence of Elisa's own family- people who desperately wanted to find her - shrieking that that was not Elisa in the video, there is zero reason to conclude it was someone else.
Not necessarily EL's watch, but could be of the same design. Sometimes couples or those who are closely related like to wear identical things. Someone was trying to make a connection between the OP and EL by pointing out the resemblance of their watches (or more accurately, the wristbands)
Oh, so she did invite people to meet-up with her. I wonder if the police can gain access to her tumblr inbox? that could potentially help a lot - perhaps one of her tumblr friends was staying in or even a resident of the Cecil, maybe they lured her there. :|
Regardless of who the woman in the elevator is. She is definetly NOT wearing heels! Watch the video very carefully she is definetly in flat footed, footwear. Definitely NOT HEELS! This is clear as day, and is about the only thing that is in the video.
They also appear to be a sort of slip on sandal, because you can see when she steps out into the hall her heel raises off the shoe like a foot would do in a slip on sandal where straps where only across the front of the foot.
The girl in the video is also NOT exactly wearing a Heel type outfit.
Chinese women are submissive? You gotta be kidding me, lol... I totally agree, no way. I have my mother, my grandmothers on both sides, my aunts, every woman in my family to prove that. And none of my Chinese female friends are submissive as well. I am strong-willed as hell. No way I will "submit" to anyone lol