CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #5

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  1. noodled1

    noodled1 Active Member

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    I don't believe we have a direct quote from LAPD saying she was found naked. We have a couple reporters saying she was found naked but I think when we discussed this before we never found anything that cleared that up
     
  2. Xavier

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    Would'nt the reporters get their info directly from the LAPD about her being found nude?

    How could reporters just blurt that info out unsubstantiated, it's pretty significant given LAPD didnt have much more to reveal at the time?

    Any thoughts on this?
     
  3. findinganatta

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    Snipped : )

    After thinking about her appearance, I came to the same conclusion. I searched for a single photo where she isn't smiling (for better comparison to the elevator video), and I couldn't find one. Of course, the pictures that have flooded the internet are few in number. She had a large smile, and it's very likely that she looked like the elevator video when she had her mouth closed.

    Also, I agree that the police are sure of her identity. The only reason I ever questioned it was because I was wondering if they might possibly have some ulterior motive for releasing that video, even if it's not of Elisa. But I see no reason it would help them find a suspect, and I wouldn't buy into any conspiracy theory explanation.
     
  4. Xavier

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    I disagree. IMO If reporters ran with EL being nude in the tank and was not verified to be true, then LAPD's PR dept would've refuted that claim, especially by now we're into March 2013

    To me, it's the same if MSM/LA media came out and said Elisa committed suicide.

    I'd assume this claim would be cleared up immediately, since it's pretty significant given there's not much evidence to go on so far
     
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    Reporters also said the autopsy found no signs of foul play. So many made that claim that the LAPD had to come out and deny that had ever been said.

    They don't always get it right...lol

    if you google Elisa Lam found a majority of the reports just say her body was found, I think I've read one that said she was naked
     
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    Looking at the timeline and something struck me that I have not seen addressed here or anywhere else. EL arrived in LA on Jan 26 but did not check into the Cecil until the 28th. Where did she sleep for 2 nights? Why did she switch over to the Cecil? Did she befriend someone on the train who convinced her to stay where he was staying? I am thinking more and more a lot of this hinges on why she changed her itinerary to detour in LA. I also think it no coincidence that she disappeared the night before she was scheduled to check out. Someone knew her itinerary.

    The LAPD admittedly know very little hence the release of the video days before the discovery of her body and the tip line. The reason the police are finding so little info is that they should be interviewing Amtrak passengers. I am beginning to think that the perp persuaded her to change her plans and wanted her at the Cecil because he knew that the hotel staff would likely not notice she was missing for days.
     
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    IMO Once Elisa's body dropped to the bottom of tank, she could've covered the main drainage valve and possibly this was the loud suction sounds Diaz heard...it's sort of like putting your hand over a running vacuum nozzle, you get the same high pressure back up and high suction sounds
     
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    the holes on the tank are on the side and not the bottom...
     
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    That's a really interesting thought.

    Do we know for sure she was traveling by Amtrak though?
     
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    The timeline says she was in LA on Jan 26?

    Because Elisa was in San Diego until Jan 28.
     
  12. Xavier

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    I know what you're saying, but actually I found many sites with the nude body claims

    I really think LAPD is buying time with the prolonged tox report...which means hopefully they're not turning this case cold

    Here's the link :

    [ame="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=elisa+lam+nude+body+found&gbv=1"]elisa lam nude body found - Google Search[/ame]
     
  13. AlphaWolf

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    - I can definitely see a old building like the Cecil having major plumbing/water supply problems quite often.

    - Don't know much about the person saying it "flooded"...

    Was the Toilet/sink or shower backing up ( meaning water could not drain properly) That would most likely mean the floors below him had a clog.

    Was water coming in through his ceiling?...That would mean someone on the floors above him had a clogged drain.

    Link to Los Angeles county Code of ordinances
    http://search.municode.com/html/16274/


    - also looks like the water tanks needed to be cleaned at least once per year
    (sludge build up on the bottom of the tank from city water sediments requires the water for human consumption to be extracted from the top level of the tanks)

    - It also says that the cover of the tanks needs to be water tight( so no contamination)...I know I read that the covers were unlocked. But they may have still been sealed pretty good.... How hard were they to remove?
     
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    I'd imagine she could've drifted to the sides & her body covered up the drainage valve don't you think?
     
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    Just remembered a friend of mine posted a link to a news story on Facebook about EL and one of her friends replied, saying she had known the family and hadn't seen them for about 6 years...Still, some of our questions could be answered. I want to ask her what her parents' names are...

    Any other questions that I could ask, if she gets back to me? I already messaged her asking if I could ask her some questions...I don't think she knows the family well, and she said she hasn't seen them for about 6 years, but...It's better than nothing.
     
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    Respectfully snipped :)

    I noticed in the picture someone took of the tank where her body was found, there is muddy, sludgey water at the bottom of the tank, and I know they drained it and everything, but it really disgusted me to see that mud, knowing that is the water people drink...There better be some good filtration system!
     
  17. No Joe Friday

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    Disagree. What would be gained by publicizing that? No reason to spread that info. They are not in the business of giving out every bit of evidence/info pertaining to an unsolved crime. As a lifelong LA resident, I can not imagine LAPD coming out and doing that.
     
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    possible. the holes aren't that far up from the bottom.
     
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    That's really original Conductor, I never though of that and makes alot od sense

    I might try calling the LAPD Crime Stopper Hotline tommorrow and see if they can tell me anything...it's worth a try
     
  20. AlphaWolf

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    I did some reading about rooftop water tanks...

    a water pump( located at the hotel) pumps water from the city water line to the Hotel Roof water tank

    City water has sediment/misc particles that collect on the bottom's of tanks.( kinda scary but sounds like it's part of the system)

    any water for human consumption is siphoned from the upper level of the tank ( where the clean water is)

    Tanks need to be chlorinated often and cleaned out at least once per year.
     
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