GUILTY CA - Classic (Orson West, 3) & Cincere (Orrin West, 4), still missing, Calif. City, *Mistrial on counts 4 & 5)* 21 Dec 2020 #8

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I did read them. Perhaps I misinterpreted the previous post? In any case, I wondered if the jury had come to a decision, but wanted to go home and sleep on it, rather than rushing to finish up today.
There are 7 counts for 2 defendants. I would assume that takes awhile to go over each and from the the questions asked today they may be leaning one way but are not decided on one or two counts.
It is good they take their time and get it right.
I have no worries by the questions that were asked today.
 
Darn it! Maybe tomorrow...
They have already gone home. Read previous tweets
Thank you for all the updates, cuffem.

Here's what I have for today's deliberations:

9:10am - Resumed deliberations
10:22am - 15 min break
12:00pm - 1:30pm - Lunch
3:12pm - 15 min break
4:31pm - Jury left for the day

5.4 hours 5/18/23
5.25 hours 5/17/23
10.65 hours total so far
 
I think the jury has paid attention to this trial and clearly understands, it is the legal speak they probably need clarifying.
The jury Instructions were an hour long and complicated with 7 counts for 2 defendants. So I see them them taking their time and asking questions.IMO.

I hope the Wests are sweating!
 
Count 5 is the second-degree murder charge for Orson, right? Do we know what Instruction 1B was? I went back to the jury instructions but they're not numbered. MOO
Let me think about it, I remember the 1b part but it was a week ago and not coming to me at the moment. I hope to remember it at 2am while I am sleeping.
I had flashes of the boys faces and the Websleuths page coming in my dreams.
 
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Count 5 is the second-degree murder charge for Orson, right? Do we know what Instruction 1B was? I went back to the jury instructions but they're not numbered. MOO
Pommy,
I thought count 5 was Orrin but I had a ? mark in my notes and did not see it in the tweets.
Count 2 involuntary manslaughter, unlawful killing but did not intend to kill.
Counts 3 and 6 child abuse.
Count 3 Orrin Count 6 Orson
Counts 1, 4 and 5 murder regarding Orrin?
Count 4 conspiracy to commit murder
Count 7 false reporting of a crime.
They are charged with 2nd degree manslaughter

I am not sure these are correct but that is what I wrote.
 
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Pommy,
I thought count 5 was Orrin but I had a ? mark in my notes and did not see it in the tweets.
Count 2 involuntary manslaughter
Counts 3 and 6 child abuse.
Count 3 Orrin Count 6 Orson
Counts 1, 4 and 5 murder regarding Orrin?
Count 4 conspiracy to commit murder
Count 7 false reporting of a crime.
They are charged with 2nd degree manslaughter

I am not sure these are correct but that is what I wrote.
Here we go! :)


Count 1 Second-degree Murder - Orrin
Count 2 Involuntary Manslaughter - Orrin
Count 3 Willful Cruelty to a Child - Orrin
Count 4 Conspiracy to Commit Murder - Orson
Count 5 Second-degree Murder - Orson
Count 6 Willful Cruelty to a Child - Orson
Count 7 False Report to Law Enforcement
 
Here we go! :)


Count 1 Second-degree Murder - Orrin
Count 2 Involuntary Manslaughter - Orrin
Count 3 Willful Cruelty to a Child - Orrin
Count 4 Conspiracy to Commit Murder - Orson
Count 5 Second-degree Murder - Orson
Count 6 Willful Cruelty to a Child - Orson
Count 7 False Report to Law Enforcement
Thank you I had not seen this. I did get the boys switched. First time seeing it written out. I could not find it in any recent articles during trial.
 

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