CA - Elizabeth Holmes (Theranos) Wire Fraud

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  1. RickshawFan

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    EH is not in custody of any kind.

    This new podcast by Carreyrou (Bad Blood) IMO will be fantastic. Evidently, there was a lot more going down than public yet.
     


  2. Seattle1

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    Recall that EH’s mantra is captured in a Silicon Valley favorite: “fake it ‘til you make it”. Her whole life is like that.
     
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    I’m so disappointed her trial has been delayed. Although she’s a complete fraud, I don’t think she’s faking the pregnancy. I’m sure it was planned as a get out of jail free card. She doesn’t strike me as the motherly type at all. I really hope judge and jury will be able to set aside her “motherhood” and deliver a just verdict and appropriate sentence.
     
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    Agree. And as far as breast feeding goes she can use an electric pump and stock bottles for days on end.
     
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  6. Auntie Cipation

    Auntie Cipation Context Matters.

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    I might be way off base here but aren't there some situations where baby can stay with mother, even incarcerated, for some limited time frame like one year? Maybe when the mother hasn't given birth yet when locked up? I wonder if that is an option for her.
     
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  7. Seattle1

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    Seriously, I don't see the government prosecutor asking EH if she's a mother any more than I can see them asking Belwani if he's a father. It's truly irrelevant and has nothing to do with the charges alleged against them! Defendant EH is certainly not the first (or the last) new mother to ever face a trial!

    To be clear, all federal court employees are covered under FLSA to have breaks to express breast milk when needed. I don't expect EH would be treated any differently than the Judge, her clerk, or bailiff, if they were in fact, nursing mothers.

    The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (P.L. 111-148, known as the “Affordable Care Act”) amended section 7 of the Fair Labor Standards Act (“FLSA”) to require employers to provide “reasonable break time for an employee to express breast milk for her nursing child for one year after the child’s birth each time such employee has need to express the milk.” Employers are also required to provide “a place, other than a bathroom, that is shielded from view and free from intrusion from coworkers and the public, which may be used by an employee to express breast milk.” See 29 U.S.C. 207(r).

    Frequently Asked Questions – Break Time for Nursing Mothers | U.S. Department of Labor
     
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    I agree with all of that. EH is being afforded the same consideration as other working mothers. But it’s relevant here IMO that she didn’t get any special consideration. The judge is hewing to the mandatory.
    I think it’s likely that the baby thing was a manipulative ploy, and the judge made the manipulation a non-issue. The jury will never see EH with a baby or even a residual bump because of the timing the judge laid down. No playing the mommy card.
    From what I’ve seen of EH, she expects special treatment. Ghislaine Maxwell is butting up against a similar no-nonsense approach (she refuses to flush or clean her jail toilet). This is going to be a fun fall. Two special snowflakes whose sense of entitlement will be challenged big time. Both have “take no prisoners” female judges.
     
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    It’s only delayed ‘til the end of August, though?
    IMO the judge isn’t putting up with any entitled nonsense or manipulative maneuvers from the Defense.
    Carreyrou says there’s a lot more damning info that hasn’t come out yet.
     
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  10. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Per Judge's schedule Holmes trial up next - but I'll keep my eye out just in case there is hearing before trial

    Tuesday, Aug 31 2021
    09:00AM
    5:18-cr-00258-EJD-1 - USA v. Elizabeth A. Holmes
    AUSA: Jeffrey Schenk / DEF: Kevin Downey
    Jury Selection

    link: CALENDAR
     
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    Do we know anything about the attorneys? Prosecution has been winning most key pleadings, correct?
     
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    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Still nothing before trial.

    Tuesday, Aug 31 2021
    09:00AM
    5:18-cr-00258-EJD-1 - USA v. Elizabeth A. Holmes
    AUSA: Jeffrey Schenk / DEF: Kevin Downey
    Jury Selection

    Wednesday, Sep 1 2021
    09:00AM
    5:18-cr-00258-EJD-1 - USA v. Elizabeth A. Holmes
    AUSA: Jeffrey Schenk / DEF: Kevin Downey
    Jury Selection

    Tuesday, Sep 7 2021
    09:00AM
    5:18-cr-00258-EJD-1 - USA v. Elizabeth A. Holmes
    AUSA: Jeffrey Schenk / DEF: Kevin Downey
    Jury Trial

    Wednesday, Sep 8 2021
    09:00AM
    5:18-cr-00258-EJD-1 - USA v. Elizabeth A. Holmes
    AUSA: Jeffrey Schenk / DEF: Kevin Downey
    Jury Trial

    link: CALENDAR
     
  13. Seattle1

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    I recall two days set for answering the juror questionnaire but not sure if this will be submitted online/virtual hearing:

    Three hundred potential jurors from northern California will be summoned to complete a questionnaire on August 19 and 20. In-person jury selection and voir dire (juror questioning) will take place on August 31.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/15/eli...-concerned-about-finding-unbiased-jurors.html

    ETA: Federal Court docket for the case has a significant amount of data under seal so this has to be affecting MSM reporting as well.
     
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    ^^rs&bbm

    Please share this updated info ASAP!

    As late as the July 7 widely reported news re. hearing to suppress evidence on the Theranos Laboratory Information System database (LIS), U.S. District Judge Edward Davila was still hearing this case.

    It's also Davila's calendar I provided @Niner and sure Niner will appreciate the correction too!

    CALENDAR
     
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    I stand corrected on the gender of EH's judge. Thanks @Seattle1
    The judge in the Ghislaine Maxwell case is a woman.
     
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    I think OP is probably the most invested with this case and I was sure we missed the change! Thanks for confirming we did not miss this.

    @Niner
     
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  17. Niner

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    @Seattle1 - thanks for those dates - 8/9 & 8/10 - will put her on those days. I don't recall seeing that before. Wonder "why" it's not on the Judge's schedule - ??
     
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    Ah HA! Looked again!!

    Monday, Aug 9 2021
    - *** CALENDAR CLOSED OUT FOR FURTHER SET***
    10:00AM
    5:18-cr-00258-EJD - USA v. Elizabeth Holmes
    For connection information, please see the judge's page.
    Motion for Miscellaneous Relief

    5:18-cr-00258-EJD-2 - USA v. Ramesh Sunny Balwani
    AUSA: Jeffrey Schenk / DEF: Jeffrey Coopersmith
    Motion for Miscellaneous Relief

    Tuesday, Aug 31 2021
    09:00AM

    5:18-cr-00258-EJD-1 - USA v. Elizabeth A. Holmes
    AUSA: Jeffrey Schenk / DEF: Kevin Downey
    Jury Selection

    Wednesday, Sep 1 2021
    09:00AM

    5:18-cr-00258-EJD-1 - USA v. Elizabeth A. Holmes
    AUSA: Jeffrey Schenk / DEF: Kevin Downey
    Jury Selection

    Tuesday, Sep 7 2021
    09:00AM

    5:18-cr-00258-EJD-1 - USA v. Elizabeth A. Holmes
    AUSA: Jeffrey Schenk / DEF: Kevin Downey
    Jury Trial

    Wednesday, Sep 8 2021
    09:00AM

    5:18-cr-00258-EJD-1 - USA v. Elizabeth A. Holmes
    AUSA: Jeffrey Schenk / DEF: Kevin Downey
    Jury Trial

    Friday, Sep 10 2021
    09:00AM

    5:18-cr-00258-EJD-1 - USA v. Elizabeth A. Holmes
    AUSA: Jeffrey Schenk / DEF: Kevin Downey
    Jury Trial

    link: CALENDAR


    Nothing on 8/10 though...
     
  19. Seattle1

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    Hmmm... I'm not sure where the dates 8/9 & 8/10 came from?

    300 jurors expected to complete a questionnaire on 8/19 - 8/20. Maybe this task does not require the Judge's presence or will be submitted remotely so not on Judge's calendar?

    ^^sbm
     
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  20. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    I don't either! LOL! :D

    But now I do see she has a motions hearing on 8/9. Must be psychic!

    I'll put these down on my notes - 8/19 - 8/20. No they are not "yet" on the Judge's calendar - but I usually check every day.
    Maybe those are non hearings - they questionnaires might just be done by those dates.
     
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