CA - Elvira Babb, 57, Vallejo, 30 June 2016

Discussion in 'Missing Persons Discussion' started by SophieRose, Jul 9, 2016.

  1. SophieRose

    SophieRose New Member

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    Oh no! Being this is July 9, I wonder if he met the kidnappers demand and then his mother was not returned?

    I remember when kidnapping was usually done for a ransom, back in the days. As many kidnappings as we have now, the police would really have a fiasco on their hands!

    I hope they can find this lady soon and she is safe.
     
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    Blondie in Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Elvira's photo

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  6. Blondie in Spokane

    Blondie in Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Photo of perps

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  7. KayElJay

    KayElJay Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    :( They killed her dog too

    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...ing-Kidnapping-for-Ransom-Case-386152091.html
     
  8. Blondie in Spokane

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    Dang, I feel for this poor woman, her son & her dog. I wonder if you're right 1&2&3.....maybe the son paid the ransom already. This is awful.
     
  9. i.b.nora

    i.b.nora I am polka dot

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    The ABC article seems to have a typo: “That same evening, John Babb went to his mother's home at 101 Daniels Avenue in Vallejo and did find his mother. Her small dog was found dead inside the home, but there were no signs of of forced entry.”

    Anyhow, the whole thing really gives me the creeps.
     
  10. SophieRose

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    I wonder if this started out as a home invasion and if they couldn't get any money/valuables, they kidnapped her for ransom.
     
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    I wonder how they came about this kidnapping scheme. I'm thinking that they must know someone that's close to the family.
    The fact that they are not talking is worrisome.
     
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    This article says:
    "A neighbor who lived near the victim told NBC Bay Area that Espinoza used to live in the building a few years back."
    So the victim probably knew who he was.

    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...ing-Kidnapping-for-Ransom-Case-386152091.html
     
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    In the article above it lists the names of the perps. One's first name is Lovely...really?!? Hope she can get her(assuming the female) life together and live up to the name of Lovely.

    Sent from my SCH-I545
     
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    I can't find any SM for the perps. :-/
     
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    It's horrible to kidnap someone. It's even more of a sign of pathology to kill the dog while you're at it. Disgusting. Doesn't look good :(
     
  16. SophieRose

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    http://www.timesheraldonline.com/ge...-woman-kidnapped-for-ransom-suspects-arrested

    Basset said the exact amount of the ransom requested was not being released, but that it was “under six figures.”

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    The dog’s cause of death was undetermined pending a toxicology report, Bassett said.

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    Police know that Espinoza was an acquaintance of Elvira, though the extent of their relationship was unknown.
     
  17. Blondie in Spokane

    Blondie in Spokane Well-Known Member

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    I cannot imagine what a nightmare this must be for her son.
     
  18. LisaWL7TR

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    I do feel for the son. Poor guy.

    Sent from my SCH-I545
     
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    Is it not strange that they have her son's phone number? Or did they get it from her or her phone? Why do they think her relatives would have money for ransom available?
     

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