CA CA - Emigrant Gap, WhtFem 640UFCA, 25-35, Near I-80 in Snowbank, Dec'77

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  1. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    The Doe Network:
    Case File 640UFCA

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/640ufca.html

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    Reconstruction of Victim

    Unidentified White Female

    * The victim was discovered on December 17, 1977 in Placer County, California
    * Estimated Date of Death: 2-6 days prior

    Vital Statistics

    * Estimated age: 25-35 years old
    * Approximate Height and Weight: 5'8"; 145 lbs.
    * Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown eyes; dark brown, 5" long hair. Her toenails were painted with orange nail polish. She showed evidence of recent weight loss.
    * Clothing: None located

    Case History
    The victim was located in a snowbank by a couple walking their dog near the Highway 20-Interstate 80 interchange, east of Emigrant Gap. Finger marks on the neck indicated she had been strangled.

    Investigators
    If you have any information about this case please contact:
    Placer County Sheriff's Office
    530-889-7800
    You may remain anonymous when submitting information.

    Agency Case Number:
    11929-77
     
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  3. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    This is a new case that just showed up in NAMPN. I'm not too confident that I am on to anything, but there are alot of vital stats similarities and a pretty good facial resemblance. I decided to put it up for discussion, and any alternative possibles that anyone might come up with.

    Leslie Anne Locke Guthrie

    http://www.nampn.org/cases/guthrie_leslie.html
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    Although it doesn't say it in the NAMPN write-up, Leslie is the mother of Julie Ann Guthrie and Timothy Patrick Guthrie

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/guthrie_julie.html
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/guthrie_timothy.html

    This would seem to indicate a simple parental abduction, and also means that you would expect that the UID would have indications that she had given birth (although that is not always indicated in DoeNet even if it is the case). There is the mention of signs of recent weight loss.
     
  4. Charlie99909

    Charlie99909 Mt. Rose Researcher

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    The nose looks good. Where was she from?
     
  5. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    She disappeared from Katonah, New York, along with her two children.

    The cheeks and chin are what caught my attention, and since the UID's mouth is opened, you have to mentally subtract a little from the height of her face to compare the two. I wish there was a postmortem of this UID. The reconstruction looks like a trace of the PM photo.

    As I said before, there isn't much to tie these two cases together other than a fairly decent resemblance and similarity in basic vital stats. Not enough IMO to run with.
     
  6. Charlie99909

    Charlie99909 Mt. Rose Researcher

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    You should contact placer county. It's so old they might help you out. Let me tell you about 3 times a week I pass by where they found her. There are little to no lights on that stretch of the highway, I can't imagine how it was 30 years ago.
     
  7. Charlie99909

    Charlie99909 Mt. Rose Researcher

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    http://www.placer.ca.gov/Departments/Sheriff/Missingpersons.aspx


    What about Kimberly ann Stewart at the bottom of the page? Last seen in 77 and was seen on the freeway with a strange car. The height, weight, hair color are all close and the only thing I can see is just the wrong eye color. She lives in the county this uid was found in.

    I might make a call tomorrow.
     
  8. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/stewart_kimberly.html

    The UID's hair is described as "Dark Brown", whereas KLS's hair is described in Charley Project as "Brown to Blonde". The additional color photo seems to confirm that her hair is light.
     
  9. Charlie99909

    Charlie99909 Mt. Rose Researcher

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    Hmmm. She has to be from close by the area. You know what, it was winter when they found her wasn't it? When the snow gets bad on i80 the turn out where they found her is like a staging area for truckers. They take it as an alternate route because the snow and wind get so bad on i80.

    Maybe a check of Utah, Nevada, Idaho might be in order.
     
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  11. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    She certainly fits the physical description close enough, and the time frame is right. Nothing in the circumstances one way or the other to make it more or less likely.
     
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    masnitram Antithesis

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    I saw that Glenna West was added to Charley today. Webrocket beat me to it, but I too thought of this case. The height difference bugs me the most...maybe I'm way off base here but if they got her height and weight from a DL I would say it couldn't possibly be Glenna. Exaggerated weight...sure...height...no....again just my opinion but I don't know too many women who hide their height, unlike a guy who may add an inch or two. I guess it depends on where the MP information was retrieved and from whom. :twocents:



    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/west_glenna.html
     
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    I see the weight difference as 5 lbs and the height 2". we've seen much greater disparity in actual matches.
     
  14. believe09

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    I think a morgue photo would be really helpful.
     
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    Is there any better pictures of this jane doe?
     
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    Glenna seems like she could be a possibility, although the distance is quite far and they both have DNA in the system, according to NamUs.

    There's only one ruleout as of now: Doris Scandalis.
     

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