Discussion in 'Recently Sentenced and Beyond' started by imamaze, Jul 20, 2014.
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Thanks for the new thread. Man, I really didn't think this was going to go to this many threads.
Where are you Erin?
Maybe when LE says she is missing involuntarily but no crime they mean...she did not run away. She could have had a medical emergency or had some sort of emotional breakdown. But they simply don't believe she up and left.
IMO there is much more to it, but, for the time being LE is just trying to simplify it.
Two things from the last thread:
How do people disappear involuntarily without it being a crime? that happens a LOT. They fall into a ravine, they drive into a lake, they hike into the wilderness and can't get out, they clean a chimney and get stuck, they go onto their roof and can't get off and broil to death in the heat, they fall off a balcony and aren't discovered, I could go on like this forever. But I don't for a minute think that's what happened to her.
To answer the other question from the last thread, yes, she had recently connected with [modsnip] birth father. I can't imagine that would be a completely uplifting experience.
JC is not responsible. My heart goes out to him.
How can it be involuntary with no crime being committed with her car being found where it was though ?
How do you know for sure ?
I was looking around the link you posted and actually saw a hole big enough to drive a car into. It's on the 5th page of pictures for the OK and Vail Mines. I know it's still highly unlikely, and I'm sure this would be one of the first LE looked into because it's popular and easily accessible, but I want to hold onto a little irrational hope at this point.
If you read JeannaT's post again, you will notice that the last sentence in the first paragraph indicates that she doesn't think it was any of the scenarios she described. I imagine she feels that way because of the car.
Judges don't allow LE to go on fishing expeditions. A judge requires probable cause (evidence) that a crime has occurred before LE can legally gather evidence that a crime has occurred. LE pulls their hair out over this all the time.
IMO, No matter what LE is telling us, a judge signing off on 4 search warrants, AND night service, which is rare, shows that LE is pretty damned sure a crime has occurred.
I think we would all be shocked if we read the probable cause statements.
So many bodies are dumped in water. It's fairly dry in the desert, but there must be a few lakes and rivers that ought to be checked out.
I don't think very many of us would be shocked. :innocent:
Salton Sea is in the area but I believe it's very shallow. Just posting off the top of my head, have not checked any facts/details.
He doesn't fit the profile. He's too young and I think he would be carrying some SIGNIFICANT guilt if he did snap and killer her in a range over alleged affair. He has been scrutinized by LE and the media and amateurs alike, and no one could come up with anything suggesting a violent past or other behavioral indicators that he would be capable of something like this. Law-abiding men with no history of abusive or aggressive behavior don't just snap and kill their wives. True, maybe there could be a history of this and JC is not at all what he seems, but I find it unlikely. No evidence that he was in any way controlling or aggressive with Erin. If his whereabouts were unknown the day she disappeared, something would have come out about this. If his story didn't make sense, there is no way Erin's family would be as supportive. I understand that family inherently wants to trust the husband, but if there was something that didn't add up at least one would have spoken up by now. Nothing. Typically, if a wife disappears and the husband is a POI, something surfaces. Either accounts of prior abuse, controlling behavior, etc. (Drew Peterson) or an affair on the husband's part (Scott Peterson). There is absolutely nothing here. Though Erin is described as a quiet and private person, I think she would have confided in someone if she were at all afraid of her husband. According to some media accounts (I believe), there WAS knowledge about a possible affair.
In these cases, there is always a huge focus on the spouse or SO, and I understand that is warranted given the statistics. But given this focus, if you still have nothing and other very likely scenarios, I think it's likely that JC is completely innocent.
Joshua Tree Lake, which also has camping. It's a pay lake so probably difficult unless someone snuck in after dark. There are a few wells and some water storage facilities by cabins, but I can't think of any rivers nearby. There are LOTS & LOTS of empty cabins to dump someone in though.
It's probably a couple hours south. Boats are allowed so it's not too shallow.
Looks like a fence around it? Am also thinking the guys walked to get to it and might not be all that easy to drive to it, but who knows. Scary looking hole. Would not catch me standing at the edge!
Two things I try to never take away from people is hope — irrational or not — and ice cream.
Now about that drive-thru video of Joshua?
Heck, I bet there are some on YouTube. I already went on one "ride" to a mine that looked to be right off 62 just to get some sense of how they look. Very, very rocky road. Carry spares, for sure.
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