CA CA - Hacienda Heights, WhtMale Skeletal UP3950, 17-26, on Turnbull Canyon Rd, Sep'89

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  1. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    NamUs UP # 3950 https://identifyus.org/en/cases/3950

    Unidentified White Male

    Found on September 24, 1989 in Hacienda Heights, CA

    Vital Stats:
    Age: 17 - 26 years
    Height (inches) 67, Estimated

    Clothing
    Black Sweatpants, 1 Reebok tennis shoe.

    Condition:
    Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only
    Probable year of death 1986 to 1989

    Circumstances
    Skeletal remains found at Turnbull Canyon Road in Hacienda Heights.

    Identifiers:
    Dentals Available
    DNA nucDNA Available at CA DOJ (Jan Bashinksi Lab)
    Fingerprints Not Available
     
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  2. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I would hope that they looked at Jody Vann Hall.

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    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hall_jody.html

    He was the right age (26), his height (5'6") was within an inch, he was from Hacienda Heights, and the time he went missing is right within the estimated timeframe.

    ... or if that doesn't fly, how about Edward Frances Copeland

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    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/copeland_edward.html

    His height (5'9") is two inches off, but his age (21) is right, the timeframe is also within range, and Anaheim is only a few miles down Hwy 57 from Hacienda Heights.
     
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    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I just spoke with Liz Napoles of the LA County Coroner's Office. She didn't see anything in the casefile to indicate that Jody Hall had been looked at. She will pass the info on to the investigators. Hopefully, they will look into it.
     
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    Otterly Well-Known Member

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    Since the last activity was 5 years ago, here's a bump. Carl, do you know if investigators ever looked into Jody Vann Hall? Both of them have DNA according to namus, so comparing the two shouldn't be too much of an issue unless they have mtDNA for Hall since they only have nucDNA for the UID.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/20081/1245
     
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  5. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Not that I know of. It is probably just a presumed rule-out based on the fact that both cases have DNA available and are presumed to be in the system. Since both the MP and UID case are in the same state, they would probably be presumed to be in both the state database and national CODIS.
     
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  6. Melt71

    Melt71 Well-Known Member

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    Is anyone able to post the Namus ruleouts that are visible, please?
     
  7. victoriarobinson642

    victoriarobinson642 Well-Known Member

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    None visible to the public.
     
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  8. Melt71

    Melt71 Well-Known Member

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    Previously suggested:
    1. Jody Vann Hall - submitted by CarlK in 2012 (presumed auto-ruleout) www.namus.gov/MissingPersons/Case#/20081?nav
    2. Edward Frances Copeland www.namus.gov/MissingPersons/Case#/23067?nav

    Other suggestions that match on age, height and PMI and missing nearby:

    Taurino Velazquez (caus/hisp) 23yo missing from 28 miles away since January 1987. www.namus.gov/MissingPersons/Case#/41313?nav

    Christian Boldt 18yo missing from 20 miles away in LA since May 1986, slightly over on height estimate www.namus.gov/MissingPersons/Case#/21072?nav
     
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