ACTIVE SEARCH CA - Hannah, 16, Devonte, 15, & Sierra Hart, 12, Mendocino County, 26 Mar 2018 #4

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  1. Mira_Eg

    Mira_Eg Well-Known Member

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    They could have been temporarily placed with this aunt after being removed from their bio parents and before being put up for adoption. The reporter quoted the aunt's lawyer stating they were 'living with her,' yet in another part of the same story the source said "I had spoken to my client the day before, she remembered Ciera (sic)". I think they had been staying with this family member for a very short period of time.
     


  2. SATA

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    I don´t know the aunt obviously, but I am certain they would have received more love from her than their adoptive parents.
    AND MOST LIKELY
    WOULD HAVE BEEN ALIVE TODAY.
     
  3. Whiteorchids

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    Hmmm Sarah calling a friend at 3am perhaps a possible lover?
     
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    I'm politically minded and always have been, but it wasn't driven by my parents making me go and campaign for an election in matching clothes with my siblings. You know what I mean? There's nothing demonstrative and performative about having political discussions at the dinner table (personally a favourite pasttime of mine tbh).
     
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    This makes me so angry!

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    It is super odd, especially considering that they ended up in a “tribe” of hippy festival goer types who in my experience often don’t wear bras and have no problems bearing bare chests male or female.


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  8. SATA

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    Well said.
    It makes me want to SCREAM!
     
  9. Sleuth99

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    And did Jen know about Sarah texting Cheryl at 3am? What was that all about? Why couldn't Sarah wait until the morning to send that message? Possible is right!


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  10. Talulah

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    I'm just going to say that we don't know anything about this aunt, her home environment, background, or why CPS did not think keeping the kids in the family was in their best interest. I would approach with caution.
     
  11. emma.laurens

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    I think this should be bookmarked as a possibility. There are a few professional websites that list employees at the Vancouver, Washington- Hazel Dell Kohl's location (where Sarah worked), as of February 2018, and no one by the name Cheryl Hart (ie. a possible boss) is listed. At the same time, this would be heavy speculation at this point. It could very well have been a close friend who just hadn't come forward before now, or a co-worker who would have needed to know about a potential absence.
     
  12. SATA

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    Yea, if the aunt wanted to keep them and lost custody that's one thing but if she was caring for them until they found a new permanent home because she couldn't care for them long term that's another thing. We don't yet 🤷🏾*♀️


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    Not to mention the hypocrisy of forcing a teenager to sit at a cosmetics counter for a “makeover”. What kind of empowering message was that supposed to send to a young girl? “You’ll feel better when you make yourself more attractive to the male gaze!”?
     
  15. emma.laurens

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    I agree on the caution part. I'm going with statistical likelihood at this point, especially since it sounds like she retained a lawyer to help with the placement of the kids. That, if anything, indicates more concern for their wellbeing than had been given to them in the recent past. And if her lawyer is right, and she's been crying non-stop, that shows a level of empathy they needed more of. But you're right, in that it's impossible to say how the outcomes would have been different with so little information about the situation they were in.
     
  16. Mariposa

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    IMO Sarah's 3am text has no greater meaning than she knew she would not be meeting her work commitments and needed to give an excuse. I bet she knew way before 3am -but texting in sick in the middle of the night lends an air of sudden illness to the excuse. It successfully helped buy time as it was indeed Monday until someone worried and called police about her. The Hart women also benefited in their flight from CPS by the chance it was Friday afternoon when CPS came out which also bought them time.
     
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    Just speculation, but I feel a bit of a "you need to care more about your appearance" vibe. It would fit with later evidence we have of the women and their concern for appearances.
     
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    Another interesting thing Cheryl said was nobody was able to get a hold of her... who else tried to reach Sarah? Who else was Cheryl in contact with to see if Sarah and Jen were alright?!



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    WOW. More disturbing new info from the Oregonian/OregonLive

    BY JIM RYAN and*SHANE DIXON KAVANAUGH

    Washington State Department of Social and Health Services documents obtained by The Oregonian/OregonLive this week provide more details about Devonte Hart's actions in the days leading up to his disappearance.

    Over a string of conversations, Devonte told someone who later contacted authorities — believed to be neighbor Dana DeKalb — that his parents were mean and not feeding him meals for days at a time. DeKalb asked if Devonte's parents were abusing him, and he replied they did "sometimes."He was apparently concerned about law enforcement getting involved and didn't want he and his siblings to be split up.

    DeKalb asked why the children weren't ever outside, and Devonte said his parents wanted to keep their children hidden. The documents also provide more details about Hannah Hart's runaway attempt.

    DeKalb said Hannah jumped from her second-story window at 1:30 a.m. six months before, rang her doorbell and ran into her house. Hannah was covered in weeds and blackberries and asked DeKalb to hide her. The girl said her parents were racist and had been abusing her.All eight of the Harts came over the next morning. Jennifer Hart said Hannah had two missing teeth after falling and knocking them out and that Hannah didn't want new ones.DeKalb said Hannah looked like she was 7 years old.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...sf/2018/04/other_new_developments_in_the.html

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  20. SATA

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    This here makes me doubt whether the friend Sarah texted is a lover:

    [FONT=&amp]C: She sent out a text message at 3 in the morning on Saturday morning, saying was sick, but nobody's been able to get ahold of her, talk to her, or seen her since that text message. [/FONT][FONT=&amp]D: OK … [/FONT][FONT=&amp]C: or her wife, which is Jen. So we're just concerned … [/FONT]
     
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