CA CA - Hannah, 16, Devonte, 15, & Sierra Hart, 12, Mendocino County, 26 March 2018 #3

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  1. krasch0705

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    29, not to bad... I will take it...
     


  2. Whiteorchids

    Whiteorchids Well-Known Member

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    Ive read a couple of experts views on this feeling Jen was the abuser and mostly likely spouse abuse going on also and it was most likely her decision to kill them all since she was the one stay at home taking care of the kids with lengthy postings and stories on social media presenting a perfect family and since her image would be tarnished killed them all.
     
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    The only seats that recline in this vehicle are the front two. Our kids are 17, 14, 12, 6 and 3... I can’t imagine sleeping in it unless they just all magically fell asleep at the same time while on the road. We travel locally in the Tahoe with one seat in the second row down (7 seats) if we are on vacation we take two vehicles or if it’s a short trip put a cargo shell on top. It is very crowded if we have an extra kid with us and have all 8 seats in use.

    Our 6’2” son can fit in the 2nd row where the waters are and ~5’ teen/preteen daughters in the rear row next to the booster seat. [​IMG]



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  4. Quill

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    John List comes to mind.
     
  5. Whiteorchids

    Whiteorchids Well-Known Member

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    Poppy was probably right when she said once everyone was sleeping Jen Hart accelerated of the cliff.
     
  6. Starkville

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    They tell a very specific story. I can see why everyone thought they were so great. Judging by those photos alone, they were a lovely happy family.
     
  7. otto

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    Was Jen driving? ... never mind.

    Jen was driving. Sarah was the teacher.

    The children were so afraid of them that they risked injury to escape, only to be returned. There were problems with physical assault, food deprivation, lack of education, absence of life skills, and murder.

    Why was the girl who escaped and hid behind the neighbor's furniture returned to these women without a proper investigation?
     
  8. otto

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    I want to clear the air about technology and other teaching philosophies (e.g.: Montessori, Waldorf, private schools). Other teaching philosophies are not against technology, they are more concerned with introducing technology at an appropriate age. All children over the age of 12 should have been using some form of technology, and most over age 14 would be earning enough to pay for a phone plan ... regardless of teaching philosophies.

    How many cell phones did the family have?
     
  9. otto

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    I don't see any reason to give either of these women a break. I really don't care whether one was perceived as dominant and the other submissive. I think both women decided to murder the children to keep a secret - a secret so dark that when police wanted to ask about food they hid, and then murdered the children. I think both parents decided that suicide was better than life in jail.

    My question is whether they drugged the children before murdering them.
     
  10. Starkville

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    The neighbors would have been breaking the law if they’d tried to stop the women from taking their child home.
     
  11. Whiteorchids

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    JMO Sarah worked outside the home. I have a strong feeling she met another woman and was going to leave Jen with all the the kids and when CPS came to the door that was the last straw. I do think Jen abused Sarah and she made Sarah take the blame for hitting and bruising Abigail.
     
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    Has there been anything released to connect the two women's sexuality to the abuse? If not, I find it unnecessary to put lesbian in that sentence.
     
  14. otto

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    We know that Sarah was a trained teacher who worked as a manager at Kohl's.
    What did Jen, the van driver, do for a living?

    If Jen was the abusive one, was it Sarah who took responsibility of the little girl with bruises on her stomach and back?

    Who was the dominant-abusive half of Jen and Sarah?
     
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    Yes, I understand that. I was not comfortable with the ‘two lesbian woman’ label.
     
  16. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers not today satan

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    Repeatedly.
     
  17. Stunned

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    IMO, they were supposed to be parents first. They weren’t.
     
  18. otto

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    Absolutely nothing released in the news alleging the two women were sexually inappropriate with any of the children. However, we are speculating on what would have caused a young girl to jump out the second story window, incur all sorts of injuries running to a neighboring house and hide behind furniture.

    There's definitely something more to this story than aggressively spanking a child over the bathtub and depriving children of food.
     
  19. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers not today satan

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    So you keep insisting.
     
  20. kikukohime

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    IMO, it'd have a lot to do with their version of their political views. These types are often "By any means needed".
     
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