Deceased/Not Found Ca - Hannah,16 (fnd dec), Devonte,15, (dec nf) Ciera Hart,12 (fnd dec),mendocino Cty,26 Mar 2018 #7

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  1. gcharlie

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  2. Silver~Bell

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    Star Valley - were they headed to Payson? If so, why? It's a conservative area known for its rodeo. WHERE were they going and WHY right after pulling the kids? Running AGAIN.

    And WHERE DID THEY GET THE MONEY for all this?

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    Boggles the mind.
    Painful to watch - not because he can´t dance. He had great moves back them. In videos from when he got older, his dancing seems more strained. He was just doing it to please his mother(s).
    No kid should have to do that! And then be put on display for everyone to see. I am SURE he was thrilled to be in his undies on social media. <-- irony.

    And arrests for traffic violations. Dysfunctional household through and through.
     
  4. bluesneakers

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    It's disturbing no matter what it was for, but it seems like he was always putting on these performances for her (wearing only underwear!) and I don't think she thought it was cool. I think she put them up to mock him, and might be a clue to why Hannah told the neighbors about her moms' racist behaviors.
     
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    Read again.
     
  6. Silver~Bell

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    In researching distended abdomens, I also saw NUTRITIONAL DWARFISM. Both caused by malnutrition. Did the children suffer from this? Especially Hannah?

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  7. gcharlie

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    Looking into the case files, the complaint against Sarah was filed on 3/18/2011. Almost a month before the complaint against Jen. Case activity notes appearance/arraignment on April 18, 2011.

    ???

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    If they arrested both parents, what happened to the children while JH and SH were in custody?
     
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    The Northeast Kingdom, perhaps? Northeast corner of Vermont, up against the Canadian border.
     
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    No.... this is not about my reading comprehension skills, which are fine, thank you very much.
    You call it out, you point it out, or, better yet, alert on it!
     
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    Probably a mistake. On our house disclosure, one owner put a date a full month earlier than the spouse did. And I’ve had foster kids with more than one birthdate; but obviously they were only born once.
     
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    They were probably just traffic tickets. Looks like Jen mailed in her plea which leads me to believe it was a speeding ticket or something.
     
  13. gcharlie

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    Except that there is a date for calendar arraignment/appearance before the date of Jen's first filing? And the other dates don't follow.

    Case history looks like the charge against Sarah was much more serious. Jen could respond via mail. But Sarah's matter required an appearance.

    Court clerks do make errors. Wish that links to the case activity were available to clear up any ambiguities.
     
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    I don't see it either.
     
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    The thing is, their property is quite far away from the neighbors, so the chance of a peek is very low. Also, the Northwest can be very chilly in March, and grey; hot sunny days are a welcome occasional presence in May, but it can snow even on July 4 (been there). In other words, sunshine streaming in the windows is rarely a problem.
     
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    Maybe Sarah just chose to appear to fight the ticket (which looks like it was dismissed). Idk, I may be wrong, but I think they are just regular traffic tickets. I actually wonder if jens was a red light ticket, which could mean anyone was driving the car (I.e. Sarah) but the ticket goes under the name of who the car is registered to.
     
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    My property is far from my neighbors as well. I just like privacy &#129335;&#127996;*&#9792;&#65039;
     
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    Certain violations require a court appearance, such as speeding X miles above the speed limit, speeding in a school zone, kids unbuckled.

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    Great idea. They could have been transporting/selling opioids. You're right: the kids would have been great cover.

    At festivals, they could have been paying their way by working on cleanup crews, though you'd think there'd be evidence.

    I'm thinking Jen might have had them picking up redeemable cans and bottles along highways.

    Probably all of the above.

    If they were drug mules, that would throw an additional reason behind buying an isolated property. They seemed to have a lot of money.

    Other ideas? Berry picking for pay (pickers sorely needed in the northwest); mushrooms; clam digging....
     
  20. bluesneakers

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    I wonder if she'd gotten some speeding tickets and didn't pay the fines, and then was busted for driving while suspended. If it happened in Arizona they would check her record in MN wouldn't they?
     
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