CA CA - Humboldt Co., Wht/Blk/NtvMale, 15-40, asymmetrical skull, Oct'06

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  1. Rle7

    Rle7 New Member

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    Likely it's an 'unusual looking' male.

    The skull found in Fieldbrook this week likely belongs to a male who was missing a front tooth, had bad teeth and a strange-looking face. He was somewhere between the age of 15 and 40, and was probably from a black and Caucasian or an American Indian and Caucasian background.

    Still unknown is his name.

    Humboldt County coroner Frank Jager said the examination of the skull by a Humboldt State University anthropologist was completed Thursday night.

    ”They're pretty certain that it's a male,” he said. “It doesn't exhibit any female traits.”

    Whoever he was would have had very unusual features and possibly appeared mildly deformed, Jager said. The nose is large and not symmetrical, and the skull itself is not symmetrical, but oddly shaped, he said.

    The individual also had a prominent brow, a missing incisor and bad teeth. Some teeth had been removed and became infected.

    ”Whoever it is would have been a very unusual-looking person,” Jager said. “They would have stood out in a crowd.”

    Because the lower part of the jaw is missing, Jager said they cannot try and reconstruct what the person looked like.

    For now, the coroner is comparing the skull with dental records of known missing persons, including those of a 15-year-old Blue Lake boy, Curtis Huntzinger, who disappeared in 1990.

    http://www.times-standard.com/local/ci_4493505
     
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  3. Rle7

    Rle7 New Member

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    Curtis Anthony Huntzinger
    Missing since May 19, 1990 from Blue Lake, Humboldt County, California.
    Classification: Endangered Runaway



    Vital Statistics Date Of Birth: August 23, 1975
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 14 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'2; 110 pounds
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White male. Brown hair; hazel eyes.
    Marks, Scars: Scar on shin
    Clothing: Black jacket, blue jeans and tennis shoes
    <LI>Dentals: Available

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Huntzinger was last seen at his sister's home, approximately 7:00 AM on May 19, 1990.
    An inmate serving a life term in San Quentin State Prison for killing 11-year-old Danny Williams of Eureka, confessed to killing Huntzinger with a revolver. The two cases are unrelated, but the boys may have been separate victims of a pornographic business.
    Police also used search dogs at the home of a man in Blue Lake to look for evidence related to the death of Curtis Huntzinger. The suspect lives blocks away from the Huntzinger home. Days before he disappeared, Curtis told his mother that the suspect, a family friend at the time, sexually molested him. Police are questioning the man but he has not been charged.


    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/109dmca.html
     
  4. gardenmom

    gardenmom Former Member

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    I have been wondering how they can tell this is not an old skull like from a burial site?
     
  5. wannabesleuthkk

    wannabesleuthkk Hound Dog

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    with unusual facial features, this one caught my eye in the NCMC website,
    male named Evgeny Lushevskiy. Anyone care to opine?
    NCMA case number 10000007
    kk
     
  6. gardenmom

    gardenmom Former Member

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    I don't really think Evgeny has any unusual features, but I only found one picture and it was kind of shadowy. I read several articles and none of them mention unusual features. He also does not fit the heritage profile.
     
  7. KarlK

    KarlK New Member

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    Me neither. The way the skull is described I'd almost expect to see the Elephant Man or at least someone with a very rare disease that affects cranial bone structure integrity, or a birth defect, as they appear to be implying that the skull's uneven shape is not the result of a trauma. I'm surprised that someone who'd look so odd could vanish without anyone noticing.
     
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    The age range is too wide. I don't see why an anthropologist would not be able to narrow it down. 15 and 40 are very very different.

    I wonder if there was ever an update on this case.
     
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    anthrobones New Member

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    Uneven shape could be a type of craniofacial deformity, but they don't really describe the shape.
     
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    anthrobones New Member

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    I wonder if there was ever an update on this?
     
  11. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    Curtis Huntzinger was found in 2008 so it's not him.

    http://co.humboldt.ca.us/sheriff/pr...ss+Releases&url=pressReleaseDetail.asp&ID=313

    This case is not in Namus or DN.
     
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    My daughter has craniosynostosis/plagiocephaly. If you look at her, you more or less can't tell, because the sutures towards the right front of her head closed early, which means that the abnormal growth occurred in the back of her head. Where the sutures close early then the brain grows in the only direction it can. However, you can really, really tell when her hair is wet. I'm hoping as she gets a little older and gets more hair, that will be less noticeable. We had her evaluated by a pediatric neurosurgeon at the Cleveland Clinic and he suggested that because her face was not affected we not put her through the surgery, which involves re-opening the skull, and that's the last thing I wanted my baby to have to go through. :(

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    It sounds like he had craniosynostosis, just affecting his sutures in a different place or places than my daughter. Craniosynostosis combined with other symptoms are sometimes found in some rare genetic diseases - Aperts, Crouzon, Pfeiffers, etc.

    I would wonder if he was foreign born, in a place where medical care is not what it is here. Otherwise he probably would have had it corrected, either surgically, or with a helmet. I think positional plagiocephaly was much less common years ago here in the U.S., but was common in orphanages in eastern Europe and Russia.
     
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    Hmm....I just read that the case is not in NAMUS or Doe. I don't see anything on the internet that it was solved though....gotta wonder.
     
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    That is not a lot to work with, for neither them nor us. Probably male. Probably between the age of 15-40. Probably biracial. Most definitely a strange sight to behold.

    I did a search on Charleyproject, "Male" "Front Tooth", and a couple of interesting ones popped up.


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    Michael Richards is my favourite, though. They only call his front tooth "broken", but I think that could possibly cover "missing". He had a meth-habit, I could well imagine him having many more teethproblems. He disappeared a few hours drive from where the body was found. According to Google Maps, a straight drive down the highway. He isn't biracial, which is kind of a drag, but I still recon that this could be our John Doe.
     
  18. sidneyia

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    It looks to me like Richards is wearing a brown fur hat and that isn't really the shape of his skull. Probably one of those brown mouton (sheepskin) winter hats. Hard to tell for sure though.
     
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    Yeah, I think it is a hat as well. I was thinking a baseball cap, though, peaked up. But, he does look a bit crooked, otherwise. His nose seems a bit off, his left ear seems a tad askew and his brow could possibly be kind of prominent, it is hard to gage from a front-view photo.

    I am not saying it is definitely him, there are still a few things that bug me. They seem fairly certain that the Doe was biracial and while Richards was never going to win Mr. Handsome 2003, I am not sure he is as much of a noteworthy kind of ugly as they seem to describe the former owner of the skull probably being.

    What mainly peaks my interest is timing and location. A few hours drive straight down the highway from where he disappeared 3 years earlier.
     
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    Sergio Ramirez is wanted by the Nevada Department of Corrections. He would have been about 42 years old in 2006 (two years above the age estimate).

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    http://www.doc.nv.gov/?q=node/181

    He escaped on October 27, 1998. I'm not sure what he was doing for the 8 years in between; I guess he could have gone west to northern California for whatever reason.

    Humboldt County, CA doesn't appear to have any unidentified entries in NamUs.
     

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