CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #13

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  1. missy1974

    missy1974 Well-Known Member

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    13:24 of this video, Tingley's testimony, he was the officer that took photo's on the 15th, first officer in the McStay residence, the bedding was on the beds then. I recall commenting on this when we first saw that photo's in the trial because I had always thought they were stripped too.

     
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    oceanblueeyes Well-Known Member

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    They sure did have a lot going on at the time they were murdered.

    I wish they had been able to carry out all of their very promising goals.

    Imo
     
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    Right, so the State could also run those DNA profiles in CODIS. I don't know if they have or haven't, I would guess it's a catch 22... if it comes up with any of their employee's, it could be argued that there is contamination then though.
     
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    Got caught up just in time to get ready for work lol Have a good day all :) I will be checking in while I'm slacking off at work ;-)

    Thanks @Tricia for opening the thread back up :)
     
  5. mrjitty

    mrjitty Well-Known Member

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    Requires testimony from the defendant.
     
  6. travelbug

    travelbug Injustice anywhere a threat to justice everywhere

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    I'm assuming that if they have it tested, which they did and determined 3 male 1 female contributor, it would still be up to the PT whether to run it through CODIS or use Parabon.
     
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    travelbug Injustice anywhere a threat to justice everywhere

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    I understand that, I was just trying to answer your question regarding "how it might have happened".
     
  8. missy1974

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    But Cathy's testimony got that out there. We both know we are not going to hear from Chase. The best we might get is his interview with LE being played.
     
  9. mrjitty

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    Sorry - wasn't having a go but see my reply was a bit brusque.

    Yes - I agree that Chase could try to amend his alibi to make it work. But he would need to testify in order to place it in evidence

    As it is, his alibi can't stand up
     
  10. mrjitty

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    I 100% disagree on this one sorry.

    If the defendant wants an alibi materially different to the one he previously gave police, that can explain contradictory evidence, he must testify to it.

    If CJ was not with the defendant (and we know she was not because he called her) then her 2019 "improved" evidence cannot create an alibi via wild speculation
     
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    BBM I believe the DT is trying to establish that with the expert testimony and physical records. No one knew on Feb. 4, 2010, the significance of that call. jmho
     
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    Couldn't agree more, Mrjitty!
     
  13. travelbug

    travelbug Injustice anywhere a threat to justice everywhere

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    Have a good day, we will try to stay out of trouble while you are gone! ;)
     
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    But obviously it became critical in the weeks that followed.

    Just like the missing cheque blanks that the defence have not produced.

    I'll wager you right now that the defence produce very little or zero primary evidence from back in the day
     
  15. missy1974

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    IMO I don't know that they even knew about it in 2010, that it wasn't on Chase's records. Can anyone tell me when they first got Chase's cell phone records?

    Regardless of what it does or does not show on Chase's records, on Joey's it does show and it shows 1 minute duration, which indictates it was either answered or went to VM, so someone needs to explain that... are Joey's records wrong, or are Chase's?
     
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    IIRC Dugal said they were unable to get search warrants for other phone records because they didn't have probable cause. I could be mistaken, but they did not get Chase's phone records back in 2010
     
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    Chase was interviewed by Police in 2010. Why would he not show them the missed call log on his phone? After all, it supports the story he told them?

    I can think of one reason why he didn't.
     
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    Chase stated that he or CJ saw the call come in and did not answer it. So the missed log must have been on his phone according to his own statements. According to defence witness at trial the caller display was Joey.

    So where is the log?

    Call me old fashioned but surely you would retain this one key piece of evidence that cleared you of any involvement?
     
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    Dugal has stated that Chase was cooperative and answered all of their questions in 2010. The problem was SDSD was still treating the case as voluntarily missing and lacked the probable cause for search warrants.
     
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