CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #13

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  1. Alisajo

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    Sorry, deleted by me
     
  2. Alisajo

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    I agree with you.

    That scenario plays well in real life. If you are trying to distance yourself from the incident you created.

    JMO, It's seems like script writer's main story line is playing a superficial role. Straight to DVD. Just my interpretation.
     
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    The many signs become easier to spot the more cases you follow IMO. They put so much effort into getting their own story right that they overlook the other person in it, so it's just not believable. Chris Watts was another example - he forgot to try to look worried about his family being missing, or he thought if he looked worried it would point to him knowing something.
     
  4. mrjitty

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    Watts is a good example of exposition. Instead of being actually sad or worried, like an actor would play the role of husband with missing family, he merely talks about those things

    I've noticed sociopathic types do this in real life. They describe being angry, rather than actual demonstrative behaviour

    Old Oscar P is my favourite of the genre. He gave Reeva all of one line in the film.
     
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    Can't you sleep bubba?
     
  6. oceanblueeyes

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    I feel your pain, and frustration too, KALI! I share the same pain, and frustration you have.

    I would say this trial has become a three ring circus, but that doesn't fit either. All characters have to show up every day for the circus show to go on.

    I can't begin to imagine how the family members must be feeling. It's like these horrific murders seem to matter very little, and I don't understand why.

    It's like this horrific case and trial has been put on the back burner, and they will get around to it whenever.

    If there is such a thing as a typical murder case, this case isn't one of them.

    This is one of the most brutal mass murders not often seen. IMO.

    Its not often we see a mass murderer capable of crushing the skulls of two fragile little children, along with their mommy, and daddy with the murderer having no family link at all to all of the victims.

    KALI, if you know, how far does the family members have to travel one way to attend the trial?

    Does CA have a fund that assists monetarily with the family members attending the trials of the one who murdered their loved ones? Tia

    So far the defense case has been a big dud. Imo. The only parts of it that has brought out revealing testimony is when they were cross examined by the state. Imo

    Even when the defense finally presents their hired gun experts, I dont think it will amount to a hill of beans in the long run or move the needle one inch away from showing CM is the murderer, and the right man on trial.

    I have endured many CA trials through the years, but this one, hands down, is the most bizarre, and so unfair to all of the family members of the four victims.
     
  7. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    It may have been in the vehicle so he decided to bury it. Or it was used to transport some other things to be buried.
     
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    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    That^^^ would be fascinating to hear. Lots of fireworks I bet.
     
  9. Bernina

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    I thought it was like Joey Jr.s security blanket, something he never went anywhere without. He was fascinated with dinosaurs and had his archaeology "tools" in it, There's a video where Joey is talking with him how this would be a great place to find things, ie dig around. There's an abundance of pics with him wearing it. He quite possibly had it on when he was killed and that's why I believe it was in the grave.
     
  10. MissJames

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    Exactly !
    (preface:not bringing discussion of JC trial here, just this one example.)
    An example I’ve been aware of is in the ongoing Jason Carter trial. This has really bugged me , but your post explains it perfectly.
    The son/defendant repeats in interviews & to first responders “Someone shot my mom”.
    Not “ My mom’s been shot “ with focus on his mom he just discovered on the floor ,
    but on “SOMEONE” as the focus . Very telling , IMO .
     
  11. LadyL

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    this is really interesting to me but I'm having trouble grasping it

    so when Chase talked about Joey sitting at his desk, he didn't describe what Joey was saying and that's suspicious?
    when Chase talked about the lunch meeting, again he didn't include any conversation so that's suspicious?
     
  12. Force Ten

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    To me, it absolutely is. For CM to be the last person to speak to and see Joseph, he should remember every single detail of what transpired. He had a lot of time to think it over as well. The lunch meeting went for one to two hours.

    Did they just sit there staring at one another?
     
  13. Tortoise

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    I wonder if we might get a recording. Probably not. There were some parts the judge was going to listen to in camera (about the witness - their crime scene specialist - objection to providing information to the prosecution) but I think they were also going to try to whittle down the 8hr interview by agreement.
     
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    I agree with you. Breaks my heart to think what those little boys went through. Awful!!!!
     
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    I sincerely hope there is a victims advocate in court for the McStay family.

    I get so disgusted when a trial goes this way. Reason I quit following them.

    It’s always about the defendent. Defense or people trying to disparage the true victims. Like it’s their freakin fault.

    This family did not deserve this brutal murder. Hell no one IMO does. Their extended family ie mom, dad, brother, nieces, nephews none of them deserve to be disparaged in any way shape or form. If they can’t remember something or get something wrong BS it’s been over 9 years. Besides at least they take the stand. Unlike the murdering coward sitting there Chase Merritt.

    This is a freakin trial to bring justice for the McStay family. Chase Merritt is on trial for killing them in a horrific way.

    The State has presented evidence against him which I feel is compelling, not everyone agrees that’s fine. BUT if there are Jurors sitting there listening and feel like me. This POS is going to get the death penalty. I would have no qualms giving it to him.

    The 2 pieces of convincing evidence above all others is

    DNA in the Trooper
    Checks written on 2/4.

    No way around it no matter how many excuses are given. Lynch pin for me. Strap him in. Done.

    I’m getting harden in my old age. But the McStay family was shown no mercy. None!!!

    This is my opinion.!!!!
     
  16. LadyL

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    I get that there would've been conversation. Just not grasping why the lack of repeating that conversation is suspicious.
     
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    I remember the last convos I've had with people I've lost, whether suddenly, or through long illness, it kind of just pops out of nowhere. I don't know if it's a function of my brain or what?
    Your friend is missing, you think about the last time you saw them and what you talked about.......that's something you replay over and over and probably would go into detail when asked about it. JMO.
     
  18. Tortoise

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    Probably because it never happened. It's difficult to invent 2 hours of believable interaction that didn't happen.

    ETA others may believe it's because they argued and he wouldn't want to talk about that.

    MOO
     
  19. thelmadawg

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    It's been said that he wore it constantly. If we speculate that Summer and Joseph Jr. were attacked while she was bathing him, or shortly thereafter while he was wearing the special bath towel, Gianni may well have been playing prospector in the playhouses upstairs or outside. It doesn't seem to be material to the case; just evokes the terror of it all.
     
  20. Force Ten

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    I remember one picture, I the one where they are playing with the mud, where Gianni is wearing it. I'll find it.

    *I stand corrected, no pack. It breaks my heart that their innocence was stolen and lives lost so horrifically.
     

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