CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #13

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  1. missy1974

    missy1974 Well-Known Member

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    I would have to listen again. But it sounded like all they got from Joey's family was the $500 payment, 3 rugs she had throw out (I'm sure that's what I heard lol), the flooring that was in the living room which they sold, and I don't know if anything else was listed? I don't think so. The State talked about 2 payments from Dan... but I think the defense was going off of just statements to LE, and that was what was listed from his "family".

    Does anyone know how much the payments from Dan were?
     
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  2. missy1974

    missy1974 Well-Known Member

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    It was IMO
     
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    missy1974 Well-Known Member

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    The majority of those calls, the duration was 0 seconds.
     
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    Maybe dropped calls due to poor cell service?
     
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    I 100 percent will never believe Joey made that last call.

    I don't believe CM was at home or at the clubhouse either when 'someone' (cough cough,) used Joey's cell phone.

    Imo
     
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    I don't think MMs testimony will be a deciding factor one way or the other.

    Imo
     
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    Well when I heard that it sounded to me as if both could be true. It sounds like something you would say you plan on doing if you can't find a way in, but when you get there and see the open window you don't need to break a window anymore.

    ETA It sounds like more confirmation that Chase won't be testifying - they're trying to challenge the state's narrative through other witnesses.
     
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    I'm afraid you are right. I really did want him to do a Jodi Arias thinking he could out fox the prosecutor's cross examination.

    But now I dont feel it will happen after all.

    Jmo
     
  9. Cricket28

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    Does anyone know what the issue is with the defense's crime scene specialist Randolph Beasley's objection? It has something to do with personnel records.
     
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    If he was claiming self defense like Arias tried to, then yep, I think he would have to take the stand.

    The State played his first interview with Dugal/Fiske from Feb 2010...

    they recorded and played a jailhouse visit from Feb 2019....

    they played a phone conversation from the day after Cathy's LE interview in Oct 2014 ...

    the defense plans on playing more of the 8 hour long LE interview with Chase...

    That is the most we are going to "hear" from Chase IMO
     
  11. missy1974

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    I thought the objection was to his 'full' personnel file being handed over to the State, for privacy reasons. I think a certain amount could and probably should be released... if any disciplinary problems, maybe error rates, or things that are relevant. But a personnel file could include information like medical issues or other things that are not relevant at all possibly?

    It was a bit unclear to me who the lawyer was that was there, was it clear to you? lol I think it was San Bernardino's (crime lab? state lab? something?lol) lawyer... so not a personal lawyer objecting. I'm assuming it's more about protecting any State employee's privacy. JMO

    Since we have what feels like a year off, I'm sure I will listen to it again at some point ;-)
     
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    travelbug Injustice anywhere a threat to justice everywhere

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    I don't know, but could it be related to the DNA results. Someone mentioned a while back that the DNA information from those people involved with examining or processing the bodies and gravesite would need to be matched and eliminated. jmo
     
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    Maybe they were arguing and hanging up on each other. I get calls all day long, from #'s I don't recognize. I answer and hang up immediately. It might've been something like that.
     
  14. Mony Mony

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    I am not ready to wholly accept the notion that they had poor cell service. During the glass talk visit, CM asked Cathy if she remembers how bad the service was at the clubhouse. He doesn't mention it was bad anywhere else, just the clubhouse. Cathy also says CM had a habit of not answering his calls which was causing problems between them. It could be just the club house was a problem, and all the other calls were declined
     
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    Back in the day, I hit the "end" button. That stops the ringing and send immediately to VM.
     
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    Oh, and during that clubhouse interview, he received TWO incoming calls. One he answered, and the other he opted not to answer. He looked at his phone and said out loud, "I don't know you".
     
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    And wasn't the first one from CJ when he answered in a sweet voice and said.....yes dear?
     
  18. Cricket28

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    I think you're right OBE! I sure hope so.
     
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    I'm replying to my own post to say.... Maybe this is the reason for R. Beasley's objection....

    http://www.fppc.ca.gov/content/dam/...ations/2015/May/12 Beasley - Stip and Exh.pdf

    He illegally accepted $8,200.00 in contributions when he was running for office in 2014. However, according to the documents at the link above, it wasn't a malicious or deliberate violation.

    Not that big of a deal IMO.
    I'm not sure if that is what the objection is about. But probably.

    MOO
     
  20. MrsPC

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    I have no clue why he wouldn't want his personnel record released except that he was previously employed by San Bernardino County Sheriff's office.

    Here's a link to his info:
    Seekfirst Forensic Consulting
    About Us

    These are his areas of expertise but I notice that it does not mention DNA:
    Crime Scene Reconstruction

    Bloodstain Pattern Analysis

    Evidence Processing

    Case File Review

    Expert Witness Testimony

    Teaching / Training
     
  21. Cricket28

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    There was another lawyer there? LOL

    Yeah, I don't think this guy has a lot of skeletons in his closet. Which I guess is a good thing considering he's CSI. LOL

    MOO
     
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