CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #16

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  1. Texas Red

    Texas Red Former Member

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    The proper way to do so would be to have a lawyer draw up a contract and handle the transaction using an escrow service.
     
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    mrjitty Well-Known Member

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    Completely agree with what you have written.

    The point about VPN is that usually you are accessing the web using an IP address assigned to you dynamically by your host. So that IP can be traced back to you specifically via your ISP's records

    With VPN you access the "tunnel" but what happens after that will be logged against an IP address provided by the VPN - thats how the anonymity is achieved.

    We use this a lot in geo-specific web testing

    So I am based in europe, but to recreate a fault observed only in Asia, our devs VPN using say a Mumbai IP. This tricks the cloud edge to serve me from the Asian data centre rather than the european one.

    Its the same way us foreigners break into the US version of netflix etc :p
     
  3. Tortoise

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    He did remember to tell the detectives that Patrick used to be a signer though -

    "his dad was afraid that they would um try to get money from his accounts, from Joseph’s accounts, because at one time they were both on the accounts and he was a signer and everything,"


    Maybe joey wasn't so lax with his bank account after all.
     
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  4. Texas Red

    Texas Red Former Member

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    What does this have to do with what I said?
     
  5. Texas Red

    Texas Red Former Member

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    Maybe that's how things work with legal procedure elsewhere but it's not the case here.
     
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    With respect, that's absolute nonsense.
     
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    I am trying to catch up here.

    My question is where is the proof Joey gave Chase permission to write out forged checks?


    How many months, days exactly was it before the family were brutally murdered that Chase started to write out forged checks for the business that Joey had given him permission to do?
     
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  8. Texas Red

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    Apparently, implied consent, is a foreign concept in the legal system you're familiar with.
     
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  9. Texas Red

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    As I explained above to mrjitty, implied consent, there was a pattern to such behavior .
     
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  10. Karinna

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    BBM, There is no evidence anywhere that JM gave Merritt such permission.
     
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  11. la2cabo

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    When referring to check signing banks do not recognize "implied consent".
     
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  12. la2cabo

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    I'll agree there was definitely a pattern of thievery but that doesn't constitute consent.
     
  13. Karinna

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    Exactly. For checks to be signed on your account by someone else, a co signer, that has to be set up at the bank and paperwork signed in order for it to be legal. That's my understanding anyway.
     
  14. asyousay

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    One would assume if Joey had given Chase such consent then he would of pre signed the checks, no?

    Forging checks when the person is a known criminal seems super dodgy!
     
  15. Texas Red

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    IMO, the fact that JM allowed CM to do so, he never filed a police report about it and continued to do business with CM means implied consent was granted by JM for CM to do so, which in turn means it was in fact not thievery and there's no prosecutor in the land that will charge a person with theft after such a pattern is established.
     
  16. Karinna

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    Yes very dodgy. CM did tell investigators that he had 6 blank checks prior to the McStay family disappearance, and 3 of those checks were pre signed by Joey and that CM had signed the other 3.
     
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    Excellent point! If Merritt had consent to sign checks why was Joey supposedly giving presigned blank checks to Merritt? It's a bunch of hogwash IMO.
     
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    Actually, once Joey found out about the thievery he was found dead in the desert!
     
  19. asyousay

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    Oh well when he is fried for murdering babies the theft will be the least of anybody’s concerns.
     
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    So do you supply checks to your gardener and then let them make checks out to themselves, at random? And then backdate as well? Smart accounting there.
     
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