CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #17

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  1. Texas Red

    Texas Red Former Member

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    Unless they didn't want the unnecessary attention the interrogatories and depositions resulting from a lawsuit would bring.
     
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    Texas Red Former Member

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    But the family didn't receive any compensation from the sale.
     
  3. missy1974

    missy1974 Well-Known Member

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    What was or is Patrick's thoughts on this sale or Dan? Do we know?

    Maybe @Bobcat1 can chime in.
     
  4. mrjitty

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    BIB

    Intent would really matter here. If DK and the family do nothing, then "the business" is swiftly worth nothing. The domain, website and rankings don't maintain themselves.

    So I think you can make a strong argument for salvaging what you can.

    Of more concern is where the money went.
     
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  5. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    Even if the PT has the evidence on hand to fully alibi DK, they are not going to show their hand yet. I think they would rather sit back and watch the DT spoon their wheels, accusing DK during much of their time with the jury.
    Then in rebuttal, the PT can bring forward the evidence they have. Much better trial strategy to wait until rebuttal to refute the DT's accusations, imo.
     
  6. mrjitty

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    Technically the proceeds would belong to Joey's estate i think

    Perhaps DK can be called and asked about all these matters.
     
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    Did DK start taking money out of Joey's account on the night of the murders on the 4th and before?

    Did DK ever forge Joey's signature?

    Did DK ever delete a check then write himself another one around the first days of February?

    What day/date did Joey tell his brother, MM, that money was missing from his account, and Joey was frantic about it? Was this serious money missing problem before or after DK began helping the family try to keep the business afloat?

    Did DK call QB pretending to be Joey while being incognito?

    When did DK first call someone asking if they knew where Joey could be?

    When did CM tell anyone about being unable to locate his very best friend in the whole wide world, that he said he talked with every single day, numerous times a day?

    Its sounds to me its CM who has THE MOST explaining to do by far. Imo

    TIA!

    IMO
     
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  8. Texas Red

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    You seem to be under the assumption that DK and the family were working together in this regard. Why do you think this?
     
  9. la2cabo

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    I'd venture to guess that just like Mr. Jitty posted the family simply abandoned the business. They were keenly aware that without Joey the business would not succeed.
     
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    I’m waiting for that piece of evidence to surface. Maybe the PT is holding it until rebuttal, as you say. I just wish somebody would put this to bed.
     
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    Perhaps DK and PM can be called.
     
  12. mrjitty

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    I don't think I am assuming anything, and the family weren't owners, whereas DK had some claim to be a partner.

    In any event I don't think the mere sale of the business is necessarily criminal of itself.
     
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    Well seeing that the defence case is essentially that DK is the killer, and stole from Joey, it would seem quite key to call him to test such matters.
     
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    Absolutely DK and PM should both be called.
     
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    Well I've just listened again and he doesn't know if it was the 31st, 1st or 2nd. He says somewhere in that window.

    We have no way of knowing which phones they talked on, there is also a landline we have not seen records for, and the defense did nothing to clear that up in cross-examination. So it's on the record as anywhere in that window of time.
     
  16. missy1974

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    I have to wonder if either will be... the mystery of "Dan" might be better than the actually "Dan" LOL

    Patrick... I am not sure what he would or could testify about... but I would be okay with him just being able to get up there and saying what he thinks of SDSD and Dugal. Especially after Dugal's disrespectful comment that he was his "adoptive father". JMO
     
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    I like to know that as well, but more importantly I'd like to know how Patrick feels about CM betraying Joey in all of the many ways he did even before he brutally murdered all 4 of them.

    I can understand none of the family at first wanted to ever believe CM was the one involved. I've seen so many family members with the same mindset if the murderer was someone close to the victim/s. It has to be a horrible feeling when gutwrenching reality sits in.

    Joey may not have told his father how many times CM had ripped him off all of the years he had dealt with him, but I'd like to know if Joey ever confided in him about all the headaches he had endured because of CM.

    Imo
     
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    No more out of context than CM's "I was definitely the last person he spoke to".
     
  19. katydid23

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    I think the jurors might have some questions abbot the documentary as well.
     
  20. mrjitty

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    IIRC there is a TV interview where PM says Joey was thinking about replacing CM because of work and financial issues

    I guess we might not hear more about that stuff until after the trial.
     
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