CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #17

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  1. citygirl

    citygirl Well-Known Member

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    Average rents were 2300 to 2900 per month in their rent to own home? And they couldn't cut it? Then they turn around and rent an apartment for almost twice that? Not that it has anything to do with the out come of this case. Just trying to understand. I listened to CJ's testimony and agree with the above poster. She sounded sad that they lost it. She thought it was there settling down point. And then all the uncertainty returned. MOO.

    Their settling point.
     
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  2. QueenBofOB

    QueenBofOB Well-Known Member

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    What a couple of leeches.
     
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  3. oceanblueeyes

    oceanblueeyes Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely.

    It makes me furious how they took advantage of a good man with such a giving heart.

    Joey deserved so much better than moochers who took advantage of him.

    He deserved to be fully appreciated for his kindness, and gracious heart.

    Joey was much more of a man than CM ever was.

    Imo
     
  4. Mica

    Mica Well-Known Member

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    thelmadawg Well-Known Member

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    My guess is they defaulted, ended up underwater, and it went into foreclosure. Wherever Chase goes, trouble will follow. . .
     
  6. travelbug

    travelbug Injustice anywhere a threat to justice everywhere

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    As I mentioned up-thread they were never owners of the property, they were tenants. They may have failed to pay their rent, but that would only result in being evicted.
     
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    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Thank you Mica for the correction! I could have sworn I saw 4/23! LOL! :D

    Carry on...
     
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  8. Karinna

    Karinna Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, talk about taking advantage of someone's wonderful kind & generous nature, just unconscionable, :mad:
     
  9. Karinna

    Karinna Well-Known Member

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    Yes, if they were only tenants renting and got too far behind in not paying the rent, the owner would of evicted them is what usually happens.
     
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  10. oceanblueeyes

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    I often think of Joey. Lord knows we need way more Joeys, and far less, CMs in this world.

    When the good one is taken, and the evil one remains, we all lose as a society overall.

    I think that is one of the reasons it upsets me so much when it was speculated that Joey's company was sham. Ugh.

    Its obvious he poured his heart, and soul, into making his company successful in order for his family's future to be more secure. To know he had accomplished those goals, and then have it all ripped away from them is heart shattering.

    Imo, one of the reasons he murdered Joey is because he had the same mindset of a domestic violence abuser. One who thinks if they cant have the victim then no one else will either.

    It was the same concept, except CM felt if he was being cutout of the big money making ventures to come, then he would make sure Joey, and his family never got to receive any of the money either. CM knew by destroying Joey he had also destroyed Joey's company.

    Joey was a man's man, and the perfect best guy friend to have. He was loyal, trustworthy, supportive, and honest. He was also a devoted husband, and father, who wanted everyone to know how much he loved his wife, and 3 children.

    How I wish Joey could have found a trustworthy best friend who always knew how blessed they were to be known as his best friend.

    Imo. Like so many good hearted people, Joey thought if he treated CM, with respect, and fairness, it would change CM, and he would finally become a productive worker who knew caring for his family must always remain his top priority over all else.

    But just like many of the other kind, and caring people, who reached out to help others, it wound up they were grossly abused, and even murdered by the very one they tried to help the most.

    Jmo
     
  11. la2cabo

    la2cabo Well-Known Member

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    As I said up thread it appears the owners lost the house to a short sale. I doubt Merritt would've been able to obtain a traditional loan to buy the property so they were forced to move. The good news is the mortgage company probably paid them to move out as was common practice back then.
     
  12. missingm

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    But in a rent to own agreement, wouldn't they have built up some equity under an owner default? Something seems fishy with it. Surely he could have afforded the house at $225. Maybe he asked Joey to buy it or cosign?
     
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  13. Karinna

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    Agree ocean. If there were only people like Joey in the world what a fantastic place it would be, and it would be filled with love.
     
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  14. Bernina

    Bernina On Time Out

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    It was probably an "Owner will carry". It doesn't go through the traditional down payment, title search and insurance, county recorder, and all that. If you don't make your monthly payment, you're evicted and lose anything you paid into it.
    I can't see either CJ or CM having any type of credit so that's about the only way they could get into a home and eventually own it.
     
  15. missingm

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    Strike all that. Went down a rabbithole.
     
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  16. missy1974

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    Is this just your assumption? I don't recall any of this being mentioned before... I thought Cathy said it "fell through", I don't think we got details, did we?
     
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    la2cabo Well-Known Member

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    Delete
     
  18. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    [​IMG] everyone! :)
     
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    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    [​IMG] everyone! :)
     
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  22. missingm

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    I went back and deleted it. It would be logical, but checking ownership records on the property the names dont match up.

    San Bernardino County Treasurer-Tax Collector / Public Administrator
     
  23. QueenBofOB

    QueenBofOB Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sorry *ss people. CM making $170,000yr and couldn't even afford to rent a lousy house with for a couple of thousand a month or pay $300 to get his "wife's"/girlfriend's car fixed.
     
  24. travelbug

    travelbug Injustice anywhere a threat to justice everywhere

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    This is why I kept posting that they were never owners and had no part of either sale/transfer of the property. They were tenants. Even an "owner carry" mortgage would still place their name on the deed/title to the property.
     
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