Yes - i said as much in my post. However, the 3rd party dev access does in fact give the developer pretty much full access (depending on how many permissions Joey gave) so I was wondering if DK had coded payment requests and other things into sales reporting. So in other words, he might have accessed paypal functionality via the EIP site rather than on the Paypal cloud One thing we do know is he sent various payment requests to Joey which needed to be approved on Joey's side. Someone must have logged in with Joey's ID to approve those. Wonder what the IP address was?