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CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #20

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  1. mrjitty

    mrjitty Well-Known Member

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    Haven't you made similar allegations based on Mike McStay's comments though?

    Words have meaning, and sometimes the detail matters. Especially in a police interview.

    Of course there is always the risk of building a pyramid on the head of a pin.

    my .02c of the realms currency
     
  2. smr

    smr Former Member

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    No.
     
  3. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Forgot to post this earlier:

    Did Chase Merritt murder the McStay family?
    This poll will close on Jun 17, 2019 at 2:34 PM.

    Guilty 69 vote(s) 94.5%
    Not Guilty 4 vote(s) 5.5%
     
  4. asyousay

    asyousay Well-Known Member

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    So a overwhelming think guilty. Let’s hope the Jury agree :D:D:D
     
  5. oceanblueeyes

    oceanblueeyes Well-Known Member

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    Thank you.

    My own hubby is a self employed business owner since he retired last year.

    He also does welding designs/projects of all kinds.

    However when he uses a subcontractor he gets job quotes from several credible subs in the area on each project he has coming up where one or more sub will be needed.

    He shows them his draft design which has been approved by the customer, and approximately how long is projected for completion so the subs know how long they will be on that particular project assisting.

    The quotes given are not based on any percentages.

    They have no idea what his profit margin may be nor do they care or even ask.

    They simply quote him the amount of money it will take him to pay them if they work assisting him to complete a certain project for x amount of weeks. They are certified welders.

    He gets new quotes with each new project. It keeps the subs competitive knowing he doesnt just get one quote everytime from the same subcontractor.

    He deals directly with the material, and supplier business owners himself, and pays them direct.

    So the way Joey did it is something I've never seen done before even by other self emoloyed business owners in our area.

    The way Joey did it seemed highly risky for Joey, imo. Especially since we know of at least one time CM was supposed to pay MSM out of his percentage cut, and failed to do so. By doing it the way Joey did it...it wound up with CM being grossly overpaid.

    Jmo though.
     
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  6. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    Ha! I hope so too.

    He’s a disgusting and dangerous predator, and that’s not even factoring in the quadruple murder.
     
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  7. oceanblueeyes

    oceanblueeyes Well-Known Member

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    How long do you all believe JS will allow each side when giving closing arguments?

    How long do you think each side will need to complete CAs?

    And lastly, how long do you think the jury will deliberate?

    Vinnie Politan used to use the old rule for every week of testimony equals 1 day of deliberations.

    Imo, that rule will not apply in this case since there has been so many dark days or weeks without testimony.

    Does anyone know or has added it up as to how many full weeks have transpired if we combined all of the trial testimony hours together?

    Vinnie uses this rule for trials that go Monday through Friday with full 8 hour days.

    Just wondering what all of you think.

    Jmho
     
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  8. citygirl

    citygirl Well-Known Member

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    Edmo! Where have you been? I've been wanting to ask you questions about CM. Like how early he needs to leave to get to the court house? What does he go through to leave prison and then return from the court house? Do they provide his lunch or can his attorneys get him some good carry-out? Is he handcuffed when he leaves the court room? Does he sit in a lonely cell during the 90 minute lunch break? I have noticed when he doesn't need to be there he is fine with that. Why do you think that is?
    TIA
     
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  9. geevee

    geevee Well-Known Stickie

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    56 trial days divided by 4 possible days per week = 14 weeks.

    I think JS will give them whatever time they request - my prediction is all day Tues. and if the jury hasn't gotten the case by the end of the day, the defense will ask for a surrebuttal closing (and probably be granted, being a DP case) on Wed. morning, jury gets case by Wed. afternoon, no verdict until late the following week.

    Moooo
     
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  10. citygirl

    citygirl Well-Known Member

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    I think he will give 2 hours to PT and 2 hours to DT.
    Does PT go first or last?
    IMO, jury will debate 5 to 7 days.
    Hoping for less though.
    But fast decision could go either way which scares me.
    As I have said before, I am gun shy based on past experience.
    We never really know how the jury perceives things.
    MOO.
     
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  11. wary

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    Unless something has really changed in the court system since I last noticed, it’ll go: prosecution, defense, prosecution again.
     
  12. oceanblueeyes

    oceanblueeyes Well-Known Member

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    The PT goes first, and last with the DT in between.

    Imo
     
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  13. citygirl

    citygirl Well-Known Member

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    @Edmo
     
  14. la2cabo

    la2cabo Well-Known Member

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    I'm not Edmo but I can probably help with your questions.

    The jail and courthouse are within blocks of each other so depending on the number of prisoner transports on a given day they probably leave no more than 2 hours before court is scheduled to begin. All prisoners will get searched prior to leaving the jail and again before entering the jail. The jail provides a sack lunch that you probably wouldn't want to feed to your dog. All prisoners are handcuffed at the courthouse, when leaving the courthouse and while being transported. They are shackled at the ankles as well during transport to minimize escapes. During the lunch recess he's in a room alone unless his defense team is in there with him. He'd probably rather be at the courthouse where he can inner act with his defense team versus being all alone in a cell with only his own thoughts to keep him occupied. Considering what many of us thinks he's done I can't imagine his inner thoughts are very pleasant. Hope this helps answer your questions. :)
     
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  15. KALI

    KALI Well-Known Member

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    Short answer.
    Too long

     
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  16. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    He really wanted CJ to find a picture of the fountain, IIRC. I think he wanted the jury to believe he was a true artist, a michaelangelo of water features---so they would believe Joey would be his partner and give him access to the cash. jmo
     
  17. citygirl

    citygirl Well-Known Member

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    It does, Cabo. Thanks.
    I may have this wrong but I think EDMO actually had worked in a prison?
     
  18. mom2chloe

    mom2chloe Well-Known Member

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    Apologies because I know I’m late to this but this is an excellent question, which may hold more weight than we anticipated! Clearly this deal held significant importance to CM!
     
  19. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    Interesting that you say NO, you have never nitpicked MM's words to try and see guilt there.

    I seem to remember you posting several times about his 'shallow graves' comment and about his 'squabble' with Summer.

    But I cannot go look because your profile info is locked down tight...Intere4sting...;)
     
  20. geevee

    geevee Well-Known Stickie

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    I'm so curious about why it seemed so important to him.

    Sorry for misspelling Provecho, it drives me crazy when they pronounce it with an 'n' and then I spelled it with one. arg lol
     
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