CA CA - Joseph Weber, 28, San Francisco, 24 Nov 2014

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  1. los2188

    los2188 North Carolina Tar Heels..your NCCA Champs!!

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    Joseph Weber
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    De Anza student and Iraq War veteran missing
    - See more at: http://lavozdeanza.com/news/2014/12...raq-war-veteran-missing/#sthash.cDdy2fG0.dpuf
     
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    This doesn't sound good. I hope he will be found soon.
     
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    Wait, he was last seen on the GG bridge and they have no signs that he walked off? This really doesn't sound good. And I've never heard of this case and I live in the south bay... how sad :(
     
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    Well, maybe/maybe not. There seems to be conflicting information on if there is or isn't signs that he walked off the bridge. From the google site linked off the FB group page:
    https://sites.google.com/site/findjosephweberveteran/
     
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    Bumping for Joseph. I have a bad feeling though...
     
  10. FigTree

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    This seems like a very sad case - for the family who are obviously worried sick and wondering where Joseph may be, and for Joseph who until he disappeared, seemed to face many uphill challenges and disappointments to try and better himself and the world.

    I hope someone comes forward with some news or an insight as to what might have happened and why Joseph Weber is missing.
     
  11. FigTree

    FigTree New Member

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    Just found this photo -

    Missing Vetrans Home Page:
    http://www.missingveterans.com/1998/john-smith-south/

    This is a picture of Joseph with his shirt off - these are very distinctive tattoos - I haven't seen a thread which describes the actual wording -
    I will look on the web to see if there is any information somewhere else ...
    But does anyone have any idea of what this says? Maybe we can piece this together?

    He also has tattoos on the underneath of both arm biceps - and possibly on his hands? (cant tell if they are shadows or not on the hands...)


    http://i1.wp.com/www.missingveterans.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/joseph_weber_04.jpg


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    There is also another photo of Joseph here sitting at a table.
    http://www.missingveterans.com/2014/joseph-weber/#jp-carousel-33


    What I find distinctive above this photo below and the photo in the above post is the necklaces that Joseph is wearing.
    It looks like a bone carving which has a silver/metal tip finding for the chain to go through (an animal or bird head) - there is a carved man in the centre of the carving.
    I have zoomed in and screencapped the necklace to try and see it better...


    Missing Vetran Joseph Weber 24 Nov 2014.JPG

    Missing Vetran Joseph Weber 24 Nov 2014 necklace.JPG


    It reminds me of the Maori bone Hooks - or possibly a piece designed overseas - but I wonder if it is something which has some significance to it for Joseph - and maybe it was a gift or something he purchased as a token of safety or luck.
    https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...v&sa=X&ei=RsASVZvcOOG1mwX374HACA&ved=0CBwQsAQ

    I wonder if he was wearing this when he disappeared?
     
  13. FigTree

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    I cannot find Joseph Weber in NAMUS.
     
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    Tattoo across top of chest ... what do you think?

    ____________ any _____________ nessassary
     
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    I wondering if anyone thinks that the bottom line of text in the tattoo on Josephs abdomen is another language like latin - I even thought it was Sindarin or Tengwar (Elvish) when I first saw it, but I think it is the Gothic font and the closeness of the lettering...

    Any thoughts?
     
  16. mrsobrien

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    ?

    Malcolm X?
     
  17. FigTree

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    thanks for that mrsobrien :)
    I had a look at Malcom X Quotes on wiki...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_any_means_necessary


    I think it is certainly the word 'By' - but Im not sure about the word which is obscured by the necklace - its hard to make out that first letter - its open at the top like a V, WW, U... so I was thinking it might not be the letter 'm' ....
    I will have a look at more quotes to see if anything matches - but Im a bit pressed for time tonight so I will have to look tomorrow :(

    I also note that nessassary is spelt incorrectly in the tattoo.
     
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    mrsobrien - you were right! :loveyou:

    I was on Find Joseph Weber Facebook page and went to photos -
    https://www.facebook.com/findJoseph...0.1427542258./650658338389859/?type=3&theater

    Josephs facebook page:
    Find Joseph Weber: https://www.facebook.com/findJosephWeber

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    the above photo with the tattoo was on there are there are replies as to what the tattoo's say -


    The top tattoo says:
    by any means necessary (spelt nessassary)

    Second tattoo lower abdomen:
    (Latin) “Perfer et obdura, dolor hic tibi proderit olim." (Be patient and tough; someday this pain will be useful to you.)” - Ovid
     
  19. perfectingpink

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    I am so saddened by Joseph's missing. I am not political, however my husband is and even though I do not have enough info to weight into the undocumented people conversation when we talk, I do have an opinion "kind of" about the issue. How can we support outsiders when we cannot support insiders. Our soldiers deserve top notch care and every expense needs to be taken for them. (Don't get me started about the children sent here who are in our custody that have been abused...I called that from the beginning!)

    PEOPLE WHO CAN CHANGE THINGS: If we cannot help and support our soldiers in EVERY way they need, we are pathetic USERS. Please funnel money and expertise into those who shed blood FOR ALL OF US so we can live safely in this world.
     
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    @perfectinpink - I was amazed at the amount of missing veterans - and more amazed to find that a lot of them are not in NAMUS -
    Its very sad for all concerned.
     
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    I agree. It is pathetic how we throw them away after we use them. Why isn't our country outraged?
     

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