Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni Missing From Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #4

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If she were intoxicated or under the influence she may not have realized it, or maybe she could have taken her eyes of the road for a moment. Your perception of things is so off when you are under the influence. Have you ever driven mindlessly down a dark road sober, sometimes you end up on auto pilot without even realizing it? Not to mention, if she was speeding she may have realized it, but too late?

Is the boat ramp located in a place where she could have been speeding? Especially if there was a large party and let's estimate around 100 cars (assuming there were 300+ attendees) parked and/or also leaving?

She just speeds right off the ramp and into the lake and no one notices?

The ramp is right there in and around where the group was partying and parked, isn't it?

I'm not saying it is impossible she went in off the boat ramp. Only that I find it less likely than other scenarios.


Edited:for some reason, I was not able to view part of thread when posing these questions. I can see some have been answered--i.e. the position of the launch.
 
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Good point. Also, if She left about the same time as several others, she surely would have noticed that they all exited in the same direction, and it seems unlikely that she would have turned in the other direction, and ended up in the water, JMO
Maybe she thought she was going on a short cut?
 

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(I'm looking to see if the model of CRV Kiely owns has automatic headlights. I think it may.)
I have a 2014 so it may not be exactly the same. Mine has auto running lights with no option to turn off, but not auto headlights. I have to turn them on/off manually. For what it’s worth, the headlights are so dim I’ve had issues driving city streets, much less our back country roads. Even with my brights on. This seems to be common with CRV during those few years. Also, my phone won’t charge unless the car is running. MOO
 

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You probably already saw this, but on a previous thread, a local had posted photos of the Prosser Lake Reservoir Boat Launch Ramp and it was indeed paved and looked just like a regular road but led directly into the water. No significant incline or anything, and I believe it would be very easy to mistake it for a road especially in the pitch black of night. I have not been able to get that picture of the boat ramp out of my head ever since seeing it because it looked like such a normal strip of pavement, except that it just went straight into the water. :/
You took the words right out of my mouth !!!

I was just going back to look at that photo that the local person took with the boat launch looking like a road straight into the water.

As soon as I saw that, I can really see this happening -- a young person, been partying, dark roads back in woods and this boat landing right into the water.

I am just patiently waiting for AWP to get there !!!
 

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Is the boat ramp located in a place where she could have been speeding? Especially if there was a large party and let's estimate around 100 cars (assuming there were 300+ attendees) parked and/or also leaving?

She just speeds right off the ramp and into the lake and no one notices?

The ramp is right there in and around where the group was partying and parked, isn't it?

I'm not saying it is impossible she went in off the boat ramp. Only that I find it less likely than other scenarios.


Edited:for some reason, I was not able to view part of thread when posing these questions. I can see some have been answered--i.e. the position of the launch.
i think its around a bend. there are maps back thread.
 

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Maybe she thought she was going on a short cut?
There are a ton of short cuts and other paths. When I look at google maps, there are endless wrong turns to take. I know from experience, if you don't know your route, and are just looking for signs it is easy to take the wrong road. Being impaired and possibly foggy weather to the mix, and I can see her going anywhere. I even see there is a road marked old 89, its east to assume that it is the new 89 as well.
 

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So in favor of the boat ramp:

Her possibly being very impaired.
General consensus it looks like a regular road.

Against, IMO:

Still seems others would have noticed, even if she did not based on location/number of people/cars she would have drive past, through, etc unless I have grossly misunderstood layout.

The water is so shallow, and remains shallow for quite a distance. (Prior posts, including linked videos.)

If the water is only 4 feet deep, and remains that depth for some distance, and Kiely had a sun roof (SS mentions this in interview), could she have escaped that way? Unless she was completely passed out, of course....

And yes, early morning boats on that Sunday makes perfect sense. Wouldn't her CRV have still been still stuck there in the shallows?

So perplexing....
 

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Still following. While I'm leaning toward an accident, I'm not ruling out an abduction or murder. What makes it tough for me, is that many of the cases I follow on here involve places I've either been to or near. The closest I've come to this area is San Francisco or Ridgecrest and those are hours away. I've seen photos on here that give me a rough idea, but that isn't the same as riding through that part of the country. I've had one person tell me it is similar to some areas I had driven in ID and CO and that is as close to a comparison that I have.

When I think about this case, one out this way comes to mind. A lady went missing while driving in the mountains in the western VA. She left one place and didn't make it to her destination. Several searches were made by LE, but I believe she was found simply by accident days or weeks later. She had driven off a mountain road and went between 100-300 feet down the mountain. This case seems to be similar. But again, I don't know the terrain.
 

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So in favor of the boat ramp:

Her possibly being very impaired.
General consensus it looks like a regular road.

Against, IMO:

Still seems others would have noticed, even if she did not based on location/number of people/cars she would have drive past, through, etc unless I have grossly misunderstood layout.

The water is so shallow, and remains shallow for quite a distance. (Prior posts, including linked videos.)

If the water is only 4 feet deep, and remains that depth for some distance, and Kiely had a sun roof (SS mentions this in interview), could she have escaped that way? Unless she was completely passed out, of course....

And yes, early morning boats on that Sunday makes perfect sense. Wouldn't her CRV have still been still stuck there in the shallows?

So perplexing....

Here is a good topo map of the lake. You can use the compass tool to measure distance.

The actual lake may be a little different because of water level.

There are some pretty quick depth changes. The boat ramp to 50+ foot depth is around .1 mile. If the water is low enough to move the boat ramp to the 11ft level, it would be 50 foot deep in around 250 liner feet.

 

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Here is the weather in Truckee on the 6th.

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4:20 AMFogFG
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9:25 AMFog in the VicinityVCFG
I imagine fog varies wildly depending on elevation, though. We live in a mountainous region in New England, not nearly as high elevation as Truckee, and the fog can vary by a few hundred feet ... driving, driving, clear, then bam, totally obscure view, and then clear again. Often concentrated over bodies of water, though. I thought it was stated much earlier there was no fog that night at the campground, though, or reports would have been all over this as a potential weather-related incident.
 

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In my previous posts I've mostly stuck to detailed information about the local terrian, and haven't given much opinion. I'd like to share some thoughts that I haven't seen in these threads... please let me know what you think.

  • There's a lot of discussion about the boat ramps and accidently (or intentionally) driving into the water. Has anyone here ever searched for a vehicle in water? I have not, but I would assume the car floats for a short amount of time, until it fills with water, then it sinks. Wouldn't that mean the car would be submerged in the water directly at the end of the boat ramp? Seems very unlikely the car would float into the middle of the lake. I don't know though?
  • Drunk people lose things. It's very possible she lost her phone at the party. Maybe it fell out of her pocket, or into the lake, or someone stole it. It's possible she lost her phone, then got in the car and drove (or was driven) elsewhere.
  • It's been many many years, but I can recall what it's like to drive drunk. I'm certinly not proud of it. Even very drunk, I can't imagine driving directly into a lake and being unaware of it. I can imagine passing out at the wheel and going off the road, but that would happen after driving for some amount of time. If she drove from her parking spot into the lake, she'd have to be awake enough to start the car, put it in drive, step on the gas, then pass out almost instantly.
  • I think someone or multiple people at the party have information that has or hasn't reached LE. The fact that her car has not been found off the road on the most direct route she would have taken from the party to her home, makes me think something other than an isolated drunk driving accident occured. Like many of you, I partied a lot as teenager and young adult. I recall being at many parties that were winding down and spontanously changing plans from going home to going to another party, especially when I was under 21. "Joe's parents are out of town and they have alcohol, we're going there!!"
 

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Because there's such a call for witnesses, a call for info on her necklaces, the focus on what she was wearing, and the amount of press conferences makes me 98% believe it's foul play. They know more than they're sharing.
I think they are just considering every possible angle, for example they have called out the team Adventures with Purpose they usually specialise in cold cases of missing people with their vehicles in water, rarely ever a fresh case. So they are considering also that she may be in her vehicle under water.
 

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In my previous posts I've mostly stuck to detailed information about the local terrian, and haven't given much opinion. I'd like to share some thoughts that I haven't seen in these threads... please let me know what you think.

  • There's a lot of discussion about the boat ramps and accidently (or intentionally) driving into the water. Has anyone here ever searched for a vehicle in water? I have not, but I would assume the car floats for a short amount of time, until it fills with water, then it sinks. Wouldn't that mean the car would be submerged in the water directly at the end of the boat ramp? Seems very unlikely the car would float into the middle of the lake. I don't know though?
Rsbm

If the windows are closed, vehicles can float out quite a ways before sinking. Adventures with Purpose has found cars pretty far from where they entered the water. Of course it depends on the speed, current, depth of water, and height from which vehicle entered the water.
Presuming she went off the ramp, the water is pretty deep despite how it looked on Google maps. She would have driven directly into water as opposed to nose-dise and having the car flip. imo. No idea if she would have had windows down. Seems like it was a bit chilly that night, but could have put windows down to "sober up"

All of this is just speculation, of course.
 

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I suppose she could have sped off, but the incredibly stupid times I drove my car inebriated as a teenager or young 20 something I thought if I just drove slowly no one would notice. Excellent point that if most of the kids were driving home around the same time, it would seem likely she would follow them even if she were disoriented....in a perfect world however. In this case, it obviously isn't.
 

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Rsbm

If the windows are closed, vehicles can float out quite a ways before sinking. Adventures with Purpose has found cars pretty far from where they entered the water. Of course it depends on the speed, current, depth of water, and height from which vehicle entered the water.
Presuming she went off the ramp, the water is pretty deep despite how it looked on Google maps. She would have driven directly into water as opposed to nose-dise and having the car flip. imo. No idea if she would have had windows down. Seems like it was a bit chilly that night, but could have put windows down to "sober up"

All of this is just speculation, of course.
It's cold almost everynight in Truckee, even in the summer. We're in the mountains, its common for it to be 80s during the day and 40s everynight.
 
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