- Jan 23, 2019
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In my previous posts I've mostly stuck to detailed information about the local terrian, and haven't given much opinion. I'd like to share some thoughts that I haven't seen in these threads... please let me know what you think.
- There's a lot of discussion about the boat ramps and accidently (or intentionally) driving into the water. Has anyone here ever searched for a vehicle in water? I have not, but I would assume the car floats for a short amount of time, until it fills with water, then it sinks. Wouldn't that mean the car would be submerged in the water directly at the end of the boat ramp? Seems very unlikely the car would float into the middle of the lake. I don't know though?
- Drunk people lose things. It's very possible she lost her phone at the party. Maybe it fell out of her pocket, or into the lake, or someone stole it. It's possible she lost her phone, then got in the car and drove (or was driven) elsewhere.
- It's been many many years, but I can recall what it's like to drive drunk. I'm certinly not proud of it. Even very drunk, I can't imagine driving directly into a lake and being unaware of it. I can imagine passing out at the wheel and going off the road, but that would happen after driving for some amount of time. If she drove from her parking spot into the lake, she'd have to be awake enough to start the car, put it in drive, step on the gas, then pass out almost instantly.
- I think someone or multiple people at the party have information that has or hasn't reached LE. The fact that her car has not been found off the road on the most direct route she would have taken from the party to her home, makes me think something other than an isolated drunk driving accident occured. Like many of you, I partied a lot as teenager and young adult. I recall being at many parties that were winding down and spontanously changing plans from going home to going to another party, especially when I was under 21. "Joe's parents are out of town and they have alcohol, we're going there!!"
I'm not sure about the first, so like you, I'm going to also say "I don't know?"
Dropping her phone--one last pee break before heading out (home or wherever), was my immediate thought. Probably because I drop my phone all the time, and I never drink these days.
Driving impaired? Yes, years ago. Also not proud, but I have similar memories. Not a frequent occurrence, and perhaps not to the extent of what went on at this party. (I had a bit of a pot phase in my early 20s, but nothing harder.) I also owned manuals, as did my friends, so how on earth we managed to drive, inhale, etc and no one ever was hurt is amazing, right?
I thought of passing out in the context of someone possibly having slipped her something, since her friend frequently mentioned how they had been "drinking from the same" throughout the party. She never clarified what, if anything was meant by this, but just thinking through things it could mean.
Kiely is fairly thin though, and we have no idea what her tolerance/experience is. She could have done several shots near the end of the party, other things and then it all just hit her? As others have said, it would be helpful to hear more from the girl Elsa who saw her around midnight, and know more about her impressions, any interaction.
Have you ever partied at this place? How close to the water do people park? Is there any way she could have entered the water quickly and unnoticed right from where she was parked? Forgive me if this was already asked, I'm just trying to get a better mental image of the entire place.