Mbr Truckeeite posted some movies on the terrain. Particularly the first one might help you. Post#638 on page 32 of this thread. Let's see if I can link it: CA - CA - Kiely Rodni Missing From Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #4 (There's probably a much simpler way of doing that.)
Doug of AWP says in this video that there were "several parties at Prosser that night, as well as this lake (they were at the Boca Reservoir), as well as Stampede". I may have missed it somewhere in the many threads but I don't recall hearing about multiple parties at multiple locations that night? At least not confirmed at those locations specifically.
Yes, and if LE has determined that the last ping was a result of KR calling SS, they have chosen not to confirm that fact for whatever reason.
I do think the 17 has a significance bur it may be between the group of friends...jagger also has a tattoo of a heart with 17..so it may mean something to that group of friends ...Never noticed how many songs are about turning 17 until now! This one caught my attention, fwiw.
'''This is yet another song that perfectly describes the beauty and complexity of being a 17 year old. When you are young, there is a carefree attitude that can be hard to embrace when older. That is why most people who talk about being 17 in a song must speak about being free. This song is not an exception; it highlights different scenarios in the life of a free young girl''
21 Best Songs about Being 17 of All Time - Music Grotto
When someone turns 17 it can feel like their whole world is changing. Music has covered this topic in depth, and these are the best 17 songs.www.musicgrotto.com
I think that SS agreed to leave with KR at 12:15 when they were sitting in the car at 11:00. I believe that was why she was so concise with the time when she asked her mother for the curfew extension.
So, as Tahoe is more of a party town than Truckee, is it possible that Kiely could've gone to another party in Tahoe?
Yes, details are often murky when there is a large gathering of people partying, especially when there is an abundance of drugs and alcohol.
www.theunion.com
Yes, youths in the past certainly never made any bad decisions. It's all going to hell in a handbasket!!!1!!1!
RSBM
I find it particularly interesting that AWP began their search at Donner Lake, as I was under the impression that they were going to begin at Prosser. I wonder what intelligence they have that led them to that decision. The gentleman mentioned other parties at other specific campgrounds, including Stampede and Boca, also occurred that night, and while we had heard rumors of afterparties, we had heard of no locations, and I sense that thoughts from locals on here focused more on unoccupied second homes as potential locations. With all of the attention that has been given Prosser Reservoir already, I now feel it is probable that Kiely did meet up with the older people at Prosser, left that party, either alone or with someone, and ended up going to another location to continue partying. If she made it there safely, I fear something bad happened to her there, either accidentally or as the result of criminal activity on someone else's part, and she and her car may have been disposed of in water in one of those lesser searched lakes. JMO
Are you talking about the time when they went back to the car to charge their phones?
LE did not go out to Prosser to break up the party, but it is possible that something specific could have happened that caused a large number of partiers to leave in a mass exodus, fearing that LE may be called to the scene. A big brawl that left someone seriously injured perhaps, or a medical emergency on someone's part? I am not suggesting that anything like that happened, but merely pointing out that if it did, and lots of attendees were underage and engaging in illegal activities, they probably would not have wanted to stick around, waiting for the cops to show up. JMOI'm responding to a comment from the previous thread: Has there been any confirmation that the police broke up the party? If LE broke it up, I would assume they would have confirmed this, right? I don't think the party was ever broken up by LE.
I had made the comment that unless police came to break up the party, there wouldn't have been a specific ending time. I am not suggesting that it was broken up.
I was going over possible scenarios In my head, and I can’t think of any way to destroy all evidence of a car other than dismantle to (chop shop style) and destroy the vin plates, catalytic converter and whatever else has a traceable evidence. Unless, I’m forgetting something obvious (which happens), the abduction scenario where the completely dismantle her car (seems like a lot of work when they could wipe it down or torch it) is the only way he car would have no chance of being found.
That is interesting, because I've read that other than a few places, it would be very difficult to accidentally drive into Donner Lake because of the number of houses and trees lining the edge. However, I did do a Google street view and there are definitely gaps in trees in places that a car could fit through. Donner Lake is really deep, too (328' at max depth!), which to me would seem like it would take them quite awhile to obtain sonar images of anything that may be at the bottom.
I think we can safely rule out that her car was torched somewhere. In an area that is particularly vulnerable to wildfires, any vehicle fire would have quickly been noticed and reported. I also think that while the theory pops up in almost all cases that involve missing vehicles, the chop shop scenario seems unlikely. We all know that they exist, but how many of us personally really knows where one is? It isn't like they advertise online. Driving the vehicle into water, pushing it down a steep ravine, or even parking it in a busy parling lot and walking away are all far more likely, imho. JMO
I wonder if the Mods would allow AWP to be an approved source? They seem to be so professional, thoughtful and thorough. How would we ask them? I hope it is ok to post this here. Thank you!
I PM'd a mod to ask.
