CA - Kobe Bryant, 41, daughter GiGi, 13, & 7 others die in helicopter crash, Calabasas, 26 Jan 2020

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  1. Only4Justice

    Only4Justice Well-Known Member

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    I spoke with my son last night. He’s 24. He and his younger brother idolized Kobe. He told me last night he feels “gutted” from the horrible accident. Says he keeps thinking about it. My sons loved him and wanted to be him when they were little :(:)
     
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  2. Arnie M

    Arnie M Well-Known Member

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  3. Roselvr

    Roselvr Ask me how to get your loved one in NamUs

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    I've seen that there are 2 reports. I haven't compared the 2 to see what's different. I posted them both on the last page


    NTSB report 1

    NTSB updated report

     
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    BeachSky Well-Known Member

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  5. Arnie M

    Arnie M Well-Known Member

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    Very interesting picture ..... we know he reached 2300 feet ..... darn anyway ... at 2400 he would have broken through and been OK

    I also noticed the NTSB report says he had contacted them to say he was going to climb to 4000 feet .... so in other words the left turn and decent was not intentional..... (earlier I had speculated he was turning around and descending to get back to where he had visibility.)

    Looking at the picture also explains the pilot saying he had encountered "another" cloud layer which would be the one at 2400 feet ...... and if you look closely you can see another cloud layer above that , and in the distance is a strip of clear sky he would have headed for and been close to where he planned to land.
     
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  6. Roselvr

    Roselvr Ask me how to get your loved one in NamUs

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    That's what I think, left turn and descent was unintentional; but then again he was dropping 4,000 feet a minute
     
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  7. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Just to be clear for anyone thinking 4,000 ft is referring to above the ground level.

    Altimeters read at mean sea level (MSL) and not the literal height above the ground over which you're flying (AGL) -- because it's constantly changing.

    For this purpose, I find it best to use dropping 4,000 fpm for estimating the ground speed and/or understand that the crash impact occurred in less than a minute.

    The pilot requested to climb to 4,000 feet MSL but the helicopter never achieved that altitude.

    MOO
     
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  8. LadyL

    LadyL Well-Known Member

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    so can someone dumb it down for me?
    it was pilot error correct?
     
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  9. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    No mechanical error reported so I'd say yes -- pilot error. Pilot was at the controls.
     
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    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Kobe Bryant's widow expresses grief, anger in online post

    2/10/2020

    “My brain refuses to accept that both Kobe and Gigi are gone,” she wrote. “It’s like I’m trying to process Kobe being gone but my body refuses to accept my Gigi will never come back to me. It feels wrong. Why should I be able to wake up another day when my baby girl isn’t being able to have that opportunity?! I’m so mad. She had so much life to live."

    [..]

    “I know what I’m feeling is normal. It’s part of the grieving process. I just wanted to share in case there’s anyone out there that’s experienced a loss like this,” she wrote. “God I wish they were here and this nightmare would be over. Praying for all of the victims of this horrible tragedy. Please continue to pray for all.”
     
  11. Luna20

    Luna20 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for translating flying lingo. A few more questions if you don’t mind.

    Will anyone have reason to sue the Bryant’s?

    At what point did they realize something was happening?

    Were they instantly killed upon impact?
     
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    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    In my response about pilot error, I neglected to also include my assumption that transmission between ATC and the pilot did not include instructions from ATC for the pilot to climb 2,000 ft and turn left. We only heard one side of the conversation and no knowledge of what was said to the pilot.
     
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    right I forgot about that
     
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  16. Only4Justice

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    click on blue link
     
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    I’m glad Kobe’s family pulled off a private ceremony without media intrusion.
     
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