Still Missing CA - Kristin Smart, 19, San Luis Obispo, 25 May 1996 *arrests* #2

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  1. Emi

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    Megan Healy @MeganHealyTV 35m
    Once Ruben posts bail, he could be electronically monitored with an ankle bracelet and ordered not to leave the county. Attorneys will reconvene next Wednesday to set what Ruben can “afford” as bail
     


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    Brooke Martell @BrookeMartell 39m
    Pre-preliminary hearing set for May 17 at 1:30 p.m. preliminary hearing is set for July 6.... followed by another pre-prelim on July 21.

    Brooke Martell @BrookeMartell 51m
    Judge Van Rooyen says he intends to release Ruben Flores on some amount he can afford.

    Brooke Martell @BrookeMartell 58m
    Harold V. Mesick is talking about soil that is disturbed on what is believed to be Ruben Flores’ property.

    Brooke Martell @BrookeMartell 1h
    Harold V. Mesick says Ruben Flores’ criminal record is pristine. And calls Ruben a “medical nightmare” to the jail due to ongoing medical issues.

    Brooke Martell @BrookeMartell 1h
    Judge Van Rooyen keeps bail set at #nobail for #PaulFlores

    Brooke Martell @BrookeMartell 1h
    Public safety is the number one consideration when it comes to setting no bail.

    Brooke Martell @BrookeMartell 1h
    Paul Flores’ attorney says he will elect to not talk about any further details about evidence that could be detrimental to one side or the other. He says there is not a strong basis to hold Paul Flores without bail.

    Brooke Martell @BrookeMartell 1h
    Paul Flores' attorney enters his client into a plea of #notguilty Ruben Flores' attorney enters Ruben into a not guilty plea too.

    Brooke Martell @BrookeMartell 1h
    Court is in order.
     
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    Big thanks, @Emi for court updates. :)
     
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    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h


    A pre-preliminary hearing is scheduled for May 17 at 1:30 pm.
    Another follow-up hearing is scheduled for June 21 at 1:30 pm.
    A preliminary hearing is been scheduled for July 6 at 8:30 am.
    Ruben will be back in court this Wednesday on his own to revisit his bail amount.
     
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    Olivia DeGennaro
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    HAPPENING NOW: Paul Flores and his father Ruben are scheduled to be arraigned in San Luis Obispo Co. District Court at 1:30 this afternoon. Watch the live stream here (and select District 1): https://slo.courts.ca.gov/gi/live.htm

    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h
    The arraignment hearing has just started.

    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h
    Paul Flores, his father Ruben, and their attorneys are all appearing in court virtually via Zoom.

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    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h
    Paul Flores pleas not guilty to murder. Ruben Flores pleas not guilty to accessory after the fact.

    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h
    Paul Flores' attorney, Robert Sanger, says he has been under "assault" by the media, specifically blogs and people on social media over the past 20+ years.

    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h
    Sanger comments on the timing of Paul Flores' arrest: "I would say that it is somewhat unusual that there would be an arrest warrant, at the same time a request for search warrants, and not much new has appeared."

    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h
    Paul's attorney also questions what evidence prosecutors have that could prove murder: "This is a very high profile case in the sense that the victim of this case has been missing for a very long time... but that does not mean that there's a case against Mr. Flores."

    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h
    "I would suggest that there's not a basis where the proof is strong to hold my client without bail." Sanger asks the court to set a reasonable bail. Currently, Paul Flores is being held on no bail.

    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h
    Christopher Peuvrelle, representing the People in this case, says circumstances have changed now that a murder charge has been filed and there are concerns Paul could flee the area. He asks that Paul is still held on no bail.
    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h
    Peuvrelle also comments on new evidence that led investigators to charge Paul Flores with murder: "There's substantial new evidence from the early 2020 searches."

    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h
    The judge rules Paul will remain in custody on no bail "There's no less restrictive means to protect public safety than to detain Mr. Flores before trail." He points out Flores has not remained crime-free since the disappearance of Kristin Smart.

    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h
    Moving on to Ruben Flores' bail now... Harold Mesick, Ruben's attorney, points out his client's involvement in the military and in the Arroyo Grande community.

    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h
    Mesick: "He's 80 years old. He recently had triple bypass heart surgery." Ruben's attorney says he's on 17 different medications and calls him a "medical nightmare for the jail." He raises concerns that Ruben could die in jail before this case goes to trial.

    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h
    "The evidence itself is more than ambiguous." Ruben Flores' attorney asks that Mr. Flores be released, saying he needs constant medical attention. Mesick: "I don't believe holding Mr. Ruben Flores in custody, I don't believe there's any grounds for it your honor."

    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h
    Mesick says the maximum sentence Paul Flores could serve for accessory after the fact would be three years. The judge points out, if Ruben remained in custody, he could come close to serving his entire sentence before trial.

    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1hThe prosecution brings up concerns of Ruben Flores potentially tampering with further evidence if he is released. "I think that is a public safety risk."
    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h
    Judge: "We don't punish someone before he has been convicted. Here we have a man in his 80s with no criminal history..." "I do intend to release Ruben Flores on some amount of bail he can afford."

    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h
    The judge says the court will likely request electronic monitoring to make sure Ruben Flores does not leave the county.

    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h
    The judge schedules another bail hearing for this Wednesday at 1:30 pm to revisit Ruben Flores' bail amount.

    Olivia DeGennaro @OliviaDeGennaro 1h
    Attorneys are discussing a preliminary hearing date now. They are aiming for July 6 and they say that hearing alone could last about 12 days. They have concerns about how long it will take to go through discovery because there is so much material in this case.
     
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    1. With his many medical conditions and his age, Ruben could die in or OUT of jail before this case goes to trial.

    2. THREE YEARS is the maximum sentence for accessory after the fact? It seems to be that it should be longer for accessory to a murder, especially for hiding a body. But the law is the law, and the judge is right. It could be 2-3 years before this case actually goes to trial. IMHO.
     
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    Out of Ruben's 80 years, he's refused to cooperate with LE for at least 25 years. He's had plenty of chances and plenty of time. Bail is set at $250K. If he wants out he can pay bail or cut a plea and talk. He's a villain, not a victim. The Judge needs to stop with the kid gloves. MOO.
     
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    Hello, new poster here. What are your thoughts on when some of the new evidence would be revealed? Not until trial or before that?
     
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    My SWAG is that the defense will try to keep a lid on it for as long as possible, but some of it will come out in the preliminary hearing. And hopefully, investigators will recover Kristin's body very soon. They have said that they have an idea of where she is. We will see. MOO
     
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    WOW -- bombshell news!!

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    On Ruben, Chris Peuvrelle says the excavation below RF's home deck "showed damning evidence that a body had been buried in that location and then recently moved." First time that's been said, I as far as I know.


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    We all strongly suspected that the body had been buried somewhere on the property of one (or more) of the F.'s houses - but to get strong evidence that this was actually the case is something else. Wow.
     
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    Chris Lambert has a public Instagram account called In Your Own Backyard. I don't believe I can quote from it, but it has at least one very interesting adjective to add to Chris Peuvrelle's statement about evidence found under Reben's deck (posted by Seattle1).
     
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    BINGO -- biological evidence = DNA!!

    MOO
     
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    When was the White Court house searched previously?
     
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    Was Kristen's DNA found there?
     
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    No - it's my opinion that there may be DNA based on arguments in court today. The affidavit is currently sealed.
     
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