Still Missing CA - Kristin Smart - San Luis Obispo - *Arrests* - #4 *Guilty*

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It will affect media access. The media need to sign agreements with consequences. MOO the jurors should be able to sue, and keep their identities private while suing.
As peers of jurors all citizens should be able to see the fulfilling jury service needs to be as safe as possible for jurors. A system of transparent justice does not include exposing jurors publicly to what ever.
Some speak out as their right others should enjoy the right to be shielded from media scrutiny.
 

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MOO Probably the hardest thing for the jury weighing is the negligence contribution for delayed evidence of the CalPoly Police into beyond a reasonable doubt.
I am convinced.
ANY souvenir does it.
 

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@Niner they are deliberating daily from 8:30 am until 4:30 pm but they have lunch breaks and other breaks
Also as I mentioned court is dark Monday - We3dnesday for this week it was pre-planned as the trial was supposed to last at least until mid October
 

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@Niner they are deliberating daily from 8:30 am until 4:30 pm but they have lunch breaks and other breaks
Also as I mentioned court is dark Monday - We3dnesday for this week it was pre-planned as the trial was supposed to last at least until mid October

Thank you for the times that they deliberate. So my calculation they deliberate ~6 1/2 hours a day. 8:30-4:30 is 8 hours minus an hour for lunch. 7 hours minus 2-15 min break - to 6 1/2 hours. Hopefully they will start eating lunch while they deliberate! LOL!
I shall change my notes on the times.

And yes - I have the dark days on my notes. Thanks again! :)

I dislike the idea of that long break in deliberations. It just seems to be a huge opportunity for the jury members to be harassed or something to happen to cause a mistrial.

I agree - it is a long time for the jury to be out when they could be deliberating. Not much we can do... but wait... patiently....
 

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Thursday, October 13th:
*Trial continues (Day 37)-VERDICT WATCH! (@ 8:30am PT) - CA - Kristin Denise Smart (19) (missing May 25, 1996 while walking back to her dorm from a off campus frat party at Cal Poly, reported missing on May 26, 1996, San Luis Obispo, still missing; legally declared dead on May 25, 2002) – *Paul Ruben Flores (19 @ time of crime/44/now 45) arrested (4/13/21), charged (4/14/21) & arraigned (10/20/21) with 1st degree murder. Plead not guilty. No bond.
*Ruben Ricardo Flores (55 @ time of crime/80/now 81) arrested (4/13/21), charged (4/14/21) & arraigned (10/20/21) with accessory to murder after the fact. Plead not guilty. $250K bond. Bond was lower to $50K. Has posted bond (4/22/21), out of jail.
Trial began on 7/18/22 with opening statements for Paul in am & Ruben in pm (which was continued on 7/21/22). State rested their case on 9/20/22. Defense started presenting their case on 9/21/22 & rested their case on 9/27/22. Rebuttal on 9/29/22. Closing arguments begin on 10/3/22 for Paul’s jury & on 10/4/22 for Ruben’s jury.
Paul’s attorney Robert Sanger & Ruben’s is Harold V. Mesick. Prosecutor is Christopher Peuvrelle. Judge Jennifer O’Keefe presiding.
Trial has been moved from San Luis Obispo County to Monterey County in Salinas. For 2 juries each: 12 jurors & 8 alternates; Paul’s: 8 men & 12 women & Ruben’s: 9 men & 10 women (still waiting for correction). 8/4/22: Another juror from Ruben's jury is out this morning & an alternate was sworn in to replace them. So now the count is correct at 19. 8/10/22: Sick juror did not return, alternate sworn in. Paul’s: 7 men & 12 women & Ruben’s: 9 men & 10 women. (a guess on genders). Deliberations calculated at 6 ½ hours per day (8:30am to 4:30pm/1 hour for lunch & 2 15 min. breaks). Paul Jury: 10/4/22 Deliberations: ~3pm-4:30pm (1 ½ hours). 10/5/22: ~6 ½ hours; Total: ~8 hours. 10/6/22: ~6 ½ hours. Total ~14 ½ hours. 10/7/22: ~6 ½ hours. Total ~21 hours. Ruben Jury: 10/5/22 Deliberations: ~1:45pm-4:30pm (~2 hours 45 mins). 10/6/22: ~6 ½ hours. Total: ~9 hours 15 mins. 10/6/22: ~6 ½ hours. Total: 15 hours 45 mins). 10/7/22: ~6 ½ hours. Total: ~22 hours & 15 mins.

Case & court info from 5/17/21 thru 7/19/22 & Trial Day 1-34 (7/18 to 10/5/22, no court on 9/28), Closing argument Day 1-3 (10/3 to 10/5/22) & Jury deliberations reference post #431 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/ca-kristin-smart-san-luis-obispo-arrests-4.635475/page-22

10/7/22 Friday, Trial Day 36/Jury Deliberations continue. Paul: Day 4; Ruben: Day 3.
For more info see posts #436 to 440 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/ca-kristin-smart-san-luis-obispo-arrests-4.635475/page-22
Jury deliberations & heard from Judge that a member of media photographing jurors.
For more info see posts #401 to 445, 449 to here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/ca-kristin-smart-san-luis-obispo-arrests-4.635475/page-23
Courtroom will be dark on Monday, 10/10, Tuesday, 10/11 & Wednesday, 10/12, this was a pre-scheduled break for the Courts. Jurors will be back on Thursday, 10/13/22 to continue their deliberations.
 
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