CA CA - Los Angeles, HispFem 443UFCA, 15-20, Green Meadows Park, Sep'91

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  1. Babyslims

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    Doe Network case file 443UFCA

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/443ufca.html


    • The victim was discovered on September 11, 1991 in Los Angeles, California in
    • Estimated Date of Death: within 24 hours of discovery
    • Victim of Homicide

    Vital Statistics
    • Estimated age: 15 - 20 years old
    • Approximate Height and Weight: 5'2"; 170 lbs
    • Distinguishing Characteristics: Long, to mid back, dark brown/black hair -- short layers in front and sides; brown eyes. Scars to right knee, left calf, and to right clavicle. She also had 2 areas of different skin pigmantation on abdomen.
    • Clothing: White cloth bra, black socks, brown leather hiking boots with lacing up the front. She possibly wore glasses.
    Case History
    The victim was located in a park at 431 East 89th Street in Los Angeles

    http://coroner.co.la.ca.us/htm/uipdetail.cfm?proc_flg=L&unid_case_num=1991-08384
     
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    Maria Medina could be her.
    http://www.missingincalifornia.com/mariamedina1989.html



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    Maria Gabriela Medina
    Description at time of Disappearance:

    Date Missing: March 3, 1989 from the City and County of Los Angeles, California.
    Date of Birth: January 30, 1970
    Age at Disappearance: 19
    Height: 5'1"
    Weight: 115
    Hair: Brown
    Eyes: Brown
    Race/Sex: Hispanic, Female
    Maria was last seen wearing a gray sweater with a black stripe, a black skirt, beige shoes, and carrying a black purse. She has a birthmark on her left thigh, approximately 8 inches in diameter, and a birthmark approximately 2 ½ inches long on her left foot.

    Details:
    Maria has not been seen or heard from since March 3, 1989. She was last seen leaving her place of employment located in the area of 6th and Los Angeles St. in Los Angeles, headed towards the area of 9th and Los Angeles St.

    Agency Contact:
     
  5. Ambercat

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    According to Google Earth, the park she was found at was the Green Meadows Recreation Center. It is a few blocks from the 110 Freeway. I wonder why they thought that she may have worn glasses.
     
  6. Snufamonbobball

    Snufamonbobball But O for the touch of the vanished hand & the sou

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    I've seen her morgue photo and you can see where the nose pads sit on her face. I've always wondered if this girl could be:

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/roberson_blanca.html


    I had saved all the photos from the LA county coroner's website, but my computer caught a virus and it corrupted everything on the hard drive.
     
  7. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Dang! Are you sure that nothing is salvageable? I've been looking everywhere trying to find copies of those LA County photos. I have a few of them, but only the ones for which I did reconstructions.
     
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    webrocket New Member

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    I wonder why no DNA.
     
  10. webrocket

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    they did not routinely collect DNA samples in 1991.
     
  11. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    There's an interesting story in today's LA Times about the LAPD's one-of-a-kind murder library, which, when completed, will contain the casefiles on all murders (solved and unsolved) in Los Angeles.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-...0131119-dto,0,7020471.htmlstory#axzz2l7C4o9AE

    There is a brief mention of this Jane Doe.

     
  12. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    This recon of Jane Doe #62 is not that close, IMO.

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    This is more like what Jane Doe #62 looks like:

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  13. JayFletcher6493

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    I wish post-mortem photos were available on this case. I feel that often that they are more useful for identification than drawings are.
     
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    NCMEC has a rendering of the girl that illustrates her to be much heavier than Barbara Martin-Bailey's sketch does.

    NCMU1184173c1.jpg

    Here's her NCMEC page.
     
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    Any pm photo for this girl? I always get her mixed up with another UID found in LA in 1991. The other girl I believe was quite short though.
     
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    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    Since she's listed as 5'2" and 170 lbs, having a picture that makes her look heavier is good.
     
  18. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I've been meaning to revise that image to show her heavier, and never got around to it. That will have to be on my to-do list.
     
  19. Gourami Watcher

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    You might be thinking of the 1992 Los Angeles Jane Doe that both Carl and the NCMEC reconstructed (NCMEC's version does differ considerably from Carl's and the morgue photo of her)

    As far as I know, this 1991 Jane Doe does not have a PM photo available. I had actually thought Carl had used one in his version but after I looked through the feed, it appears that he used Barbara Martin-Bailey's sketch as a reference. I have yet to find this Jane Doe's PM through the "Jane Doe" YouTube channel or anywhere else.

    All I really know is that this poor girl was a murder victim and the expression depicted in her sketch looks pained, so the PM is probably graphic.
     
  20. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I have the PM of her. It is not particularly graphic compared to others I've seen, but if she is ever ID'd, I'm sure her family would not want that photo all over the internet.
     
  21. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Here is the revision, showing her much heavier than I had depicted in my previous version:

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    In the PM photo, you can't really see that she is that heavy.
     

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