CA - Nicole Lorraine Linton, 37, speeds through intersection kills 6, including pregnant woman in fiery crash, Los Angeles, 4 Aug. '22

Lots of "love and support" for Nicole, but not a word of remorse over the six human beings she destroyed with her 130-mph Mercedes bullet. All about Nicole and her "struggles". Sorry, but I've had enough. JMO.

Mental illness under the law does not necessarily result in a successful insanity defense. "Insanity" as a legal term is very limited in its meaning.
 
Lots of "love and support" for Nicole, but not a word of remorse over the six human beings she destroyed with her 130-mph Mercedes bullet. All about Nicole and her "struggles". Sorry, but I've had enough. JMO.

Mental illness under the law does not necessarily result in a successful insanity defense. "Insanity" as a legal term is very limited in its meaning.
Good post. Yes, maybe websites dedicated to each of the horrifically murdered people are in the offing? By Nicole's family. Highlighting each of their lives that were taken via tremendous violence? ??

Two of the cars were CUT IN HALF and in flames. Imagine that for a minute. What a way to die. That isn't just death. That's torture.
 
I think it's very likely something did happen. That part of the report really stood out to me. (I think I just don't like the fact NL's legal team will be blaming the hospital, but of course they will either way :mad:). I'm including the article snippet (from your link) for all to reference.


Linton phoned her older sister four times that day, beginning with a call before work.

She also FaceTimed from the hospital, saying her co-workers were “acting weird.”

Later, Linton repeated the complaint.

“She turned the video, and there was someone walking with her and she introduced me to the person. My first thought seeing the person was that they were escorting her around,” Kim said.

The person followed Linton to the elevator, her sister said. As Linton continued talking with Kim, the worker tailed her around the hospital.

Kaiser Permanente declined to answer questions about Linton’s performance or whether an employee was following her around work the day of the crash.
this def sounds like her being escorted out.
 
The family of Asherey Ryan, a pregnant woman who was killed along with her baby, partner and 11-month-old in a violent crash in Windsor Hills, was responding to a website created by the suspect's family who say they think the suspect was unfairly charged.
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The family of several victims in the crash who were on their way home from a prenatal checkup said they find the website to be ill-timed and insensitive.

“On behalf of the family of Asherey Ryan, Armani Lester, and Alonzo Quintero we find that the website made for Nicole Linton is insensitive and ill timed. We’re still struggling to grasp the magnitude of our loss. Every day has been emotionally hard. The hurt we’ve had to endure from the website seems quite intentional and we strongly oppose it. We will continue to get through this trying time as a family, and we will continue to seek Justice for Asherey, Armani and Alonzo. We hope that the other families affected will do the same," Deandra Kittles said in a statement.
 
The family of Asherey Ryan, a pregnant woman who was killed along with her baby, partner and 11-month-old in a violent crash in Windsor Hills, was responding to a website created by the suspect's family who say they think the suspect was unfairly charged.
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The family of several victims in the crash who were on their way home from a prenatal checkup said they find the website to be ill-timed and insensitive.

“On behalf of the family of Asherey Ryan, Armani Lester, and Alonzo Quintero we find that the website made for Nicole Linton is insensitive and ill timed. We’re still struggling to grasp the magnitude of our loss. Every day has been emotionally hard. The hurt we’ve had to endure from the website seems quite intentional and we strongly oppose it. We will continue to get through this trying time as a family, and we will continue to seek Justice for Asherey, Armani and Alonzo. We hope that the other families affected will do the same," Deandra Kittles said in a statement.
Good for them!! The website is so insensitive to say the least.
 
The family of Asherey Ryan, a pregnant woman who was killed along with her baby, partner and 11-month-old in a violent crash in Windsor Hills, was responding to a website created by the suspect's family who say they think the suspect was unfairly charged.
...
The family of several victims in the crash who were on their way home from a prenatal checkup said they find the website to be ill-timed and insensitive.

“On behalf of the family of Asherey Ryan, Armani Lester, and Alonzo Quintero we find that the website made for Nicole Linton is insensitive and ill timed. We’re still struggling to grasp the magnitude of our loss. Every day has been emotionally hard. The hurt we’ve had to endure from the website seems quite intentional and we strongly oppose it. We will continue to get through this trying time as a family, and we will continue to seek Justice for Asherey, Armani and Alonzo. We hope that the other families affected will do the same," Deandra Kittles said in a statement.
From your link: "Aside from all the information about her history and the case, the family is also seeking donations for Linton's medical legal funds. They are also hoping to raise money for the other families impacted too." I didn't see this anywhere on the website.

MOO JMO
 
From your link: "Aside from all the information about her history and the case, the family is also seeking donations for Linton's medical legal funds. They are also hoping to raise money for the other families impacted too." I didn't see this anywhere on the website.

MOO JMO
It's possible they meant other families like Linton's that have been impacted by mental illness, which would be pretty tone deaf, imo
 
From your link: "Aside from all the information about her history and the case, the family is also seeking donations for Linton's medical legal funds. They are also hoping to raise money for the other families impacted too." I didn't see this anywhere on the website.

MOO JMO

I saw it. They linked all of the crash family's fund raisers on their website.
 
From your link: "Aside from all the information about her history and the case, the family is also seeking donations for Linton's medical legal funds. They are also hoping to raise money for the other families impacted too." I didn't see this anywhere on the website.

MOO JMO
It's sneaky IMO. I checked their website and you're correct, there's no mention of helping the other families.

What they did is link to their crowd funding campaign. At the very end of their sooooo sad story they "ask" that contributors also consider donating to the victims' families too, and provide links to those campaigns. Kind of like an afterthought to make them look better IMO. They are not involved in those campaigns so "hoping to raise money for the other families impacted too" is a bit misleading IMO.

Also notice their campaign is a different one from the usual popular donation site. IMO it's because, as someone upthread noted, the popular site may not allow campaigns for legal defense.

ETA: I went back to the "popular" fundraising site and after a few searches learned that it does indeed allow for legal defense fundraisers, even for someone accused of murder. Go figure.
 
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There are just too many inconsistencies and I really need someone to tell me what makes Nicole’s case so different? Why is it that one of the most compassionate people I know, someone who dedicated her life to helping people and suffering from a mental illness is being charged with murder?


Well, because that's what she did. Using her car as a deadly weapon, your compassionate and dedicated sister, killed six human beings. I don't see that as difficult to comprehend?
 
Monday, October 3rd:
*Further Proceedings Hearing (@ 8:30am PT) - CA - 6 killed (Victims: Asherey Ryan (23), her son Alonzo Luchiano Quintero (11 mos.), her unborn baby boy Armani Lester & her boyfriend Reynold Lester (24), Nathesia Lewis (42) & Lynette Noble (38) & 8 injured (the other victims had minor injuries & included a 33-year-old woman & another adult (19 years old) plus six children ranging in age from 1 to 15 years old) as woman speeds (~90mph in a 35mph zone) thru intersection at the La Brea-Slauson in West Los Angeles in a fiery 7-car crash, August 4, 2022, Windsor Hills, Los Angeles) - Nicole Lorraine Linton (37) arrested (8/4/22), charged (8/8/22) with vehicular manslaughter with gross negligence. Re-charged (8/8/22) with 6 counts of murder & 5 counts of gross vehicular manslaughter. $2M bond. Bond changed (8/7/22) to $9M. Judge changed (8/8/22) to no bond. No bond change-denied (9/12/22). Her car appears to be a 2018 Mercedes-Benz E400 4Matic Coupe per fostercrusader.
Case info from 8/7/22 to 8/31/22 reference post #598 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...-woman-in-fiery-crash-4-aug-22.632184/page-27

9/9/22: Linton accelerated to 130mph just before the crash, according to new court documents filed Friday. The motion, filed by the Los Angeles County district attorney's office in response to claims by the nurse's attorneys that she had lost consciousness before the collision, states that Linton "was conscious & deliberate in her driving." Authorities originally estimated Linton's car was traveling 90mph when it crashed into multiple vehicles at the intersection of La Brea & Slauson avenues shortly after 1:30pm on Aug. 4, 2022. "Further analysis reveals that her speed at impact was in fact 130mph & that she floored the gas pedal for at least the 5 seconds leading into the crash, going from 122mph to 130mph," Friday's court filing said. Prosecutors said analysis of the Mercedes' recorded data & surveillance video indicates that Linton had "complete control over steering, maintaining the tilt of the steering wheel to keep her car traveling directly toward the crowded intersection.” Bail review hearing on 9/12/22 & arraignment hearing on 10/26/22.
9/12/22 Update: Judge Victoria Wilson ruled Monday that the nurse charged in the deadly Windsor Hills crash poses a threat to public safety & must continue to be held in jail as her case moves forward. “She crashed into and set two cars on fire. She stole six innocent lives,” said Wilson from the bench as Linton hung her head behind a glass partition in the courtroom. Motion for bond review-denied. Article had arraignment hearing on 9/19/22 & court site says 10/26/22. Motions hearing held on 9/13/22 & 9/15/22. Next preliminary hearing on 9/22/22.
9/22/22 Update: Preliminary hearing was vacated. Next further proceedings hearing on 10/3/22 & preliminary hearing on 11/10/22.
 
No info on what happened? I hope she was denied bond again!

I can not find any current articles over here - so maybe someone local or in the U.S. can find out what happened yesterday.

The court site for L.A. County is not the greatest to find info.

Court site update:

Upcoming Scheduled Events

Date Time Location Dept/Room Number
November 10, 2022 08:30 AM Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center 109 PRELIMINARY HEARING

link: Criminal Case Summary - Online Services - LA Court
 
Would just like to state an observation that I’m sure will be unpopular, and I am not saying I agree with it: just something I noticed.

When Anne Hecht passed, she crashed her car into a home and had traces of fentanyl and cocaine in her system. Because there were no fatalities, she got sympathy.

There is currently another missing person who willingly stopped their meds and left their husband and children, but because there are no fatalities, that person has sympathy and “mental health awareness”.

But with NL, who also apparently stopped her meds, there is ZERO sympathy, because there were fatalities, despite her having a record of being kind, loving, and a good nurse.

It’s just interesting to me that “mental health awareness” seems to stop being a thing when somebody else is affected by it - then suddenly it’s “they should’ve known better”. We are talking about mentally ill people here — where do we draw the line on them “knowing better”? Their brain simply does not operate/process/rationalize the way a non-mentally ill brain does.

Again, not trying to garner sympathy for NL, just stating an observation that I’ve noticed — that mental health awareness is a great cause and that mentally ill people can’t help their actions. Until someone is hurt. Then it’s shame shame shame.

Would love to hear others thoughts on this. Cordially of course. :)
 
Would just like to state an observation that I’m sure will be unpopular, and I am not saying I agree with it: just something I noticed.

When Anne Hecht passed, she crashed her car into a home and had traces of fentanyl and cocaine in her system. Because there were no fatalities, she got sympathy.

There is currently another missing person who willingly stopped their meds and left their husband and children, but because there are no fatalities, that person has sympathy and “mental health awareness”.

But with NL, who also apparently stopped her meds, there is ZERO sympathy, because there were fatalities, despite her having a record of being kind, loving, and a good nurse.

It’s just interesting to me that “mental health awareness” seems to stop being a thing when somebody else is affected by it - then suddenly it’s “they should’ve known better”. We are talking about mentally ill people here — where do we draw the line on them “knowing better”? Their brain simply does not operate/process/rationalize the way a non-mentally ill brain does.

Again, not trying to garner sympathy for NL, just stating an observation that I’ve noticed — that mental health awareness is a great cause and that mentally ill people can’t help their actions. Until someone is hurt. Then it’s shame shame shame.

Would love to hear others thoughts on this. Cordially of course. :)

The fact that NL worked in the Health Industry makes me feel that she should be held to a higher standard. In fact, she should have held herself to a higher standard.
The vast majority of those that suffer from mental illness never hurt another person.
The vast majority of those that suffer from mental illness know that a car can be a weapon when improperly operated.
You say that "mentally ill people can't help their actions".
They can, and they do. Every day.
And of course, NL took the lives of 6 people. Including 2 people that never even had a chance to make a difference in the world.
She COULD have helped her actions. She made a CHOICE to disregard any respect , honor or empathy for any life form that she crossed paths with.
For that- I have zero sympathy.


JMO
 
The fact that NL worked in the Health Industry makes me feel that she should be held to a higher standard. In fact, she should have held herself to a higher standard.
The vast majority of those that suffer from mental illness never hurt another person.
The vast majority of those that suffer from mental illness know that a car can be a weapon when improperly operated.
You say that "mentally ill people can't help their actions".
They can, and they do. Every day.
And of course, NL took the lives of 6 people. Including 2 people that never even had a chance to make a difference in the world.
She COULD have helped her actions. She made a CHOICE to disregard any respect , honor or empathy for any life form that she crossed paths with.
For that- I have zero sympathy.


JMO
I appreciate your input. I wasn’t personally saying mentally ill people can’t control their actions, just that that’s the general sentiment when somebody has a mental break.

As someone who works in health care, had substance abuse issues, and mental health issues, watching this play out has been very interesting. I know that personally, when I suffered a break from reality, my mental illness didn’t give two poops that I was a healthcare professional. There was no “oh wait, I work in healthcare, so I should know better”. The brain does what the brain does.

With that being said, the victims absolutely deserve justice, and if heaven forbid I ever had a mental break that resulted in others deaths, I would absolutely want justice for them and would not be making any excuses.
 
I appreciate your input. I wasn’t personally saying mentally ill people can’t control their actions, just that that’s the general sentiment when somebody has a mental break.

As someone who works in health care, had substance abuse issues, and mental health issues, watching this play out has been very interesting. I know that personally, when I suffered a break from reality, my mental illness didn’t give two poops that I was a healthcare professional. There was no “oh wait, I work in healthcare, so I should know better”. The brain does what the brain does.

With that being said, the victims absolutely deserve justice, and if heaven forbid I ever had a mental break that resulted in others deaths, I would absolutely want justice for them and would not be making any excuses.

Those who struggle with mental health issues work in every industry. Certain positions are expected to condone themselves in ways that reflect a more professional demeanor even outside of work. I would expect taking pride with personal conduct to be essential when you are a nurse- A healer, A confidant and a helper overall.
I understand that perfection can't be obtained and that people make mistakes.
Mental illness may not give a poo about anyone's title or plans, but it is extremely rare for any person to have zero control of their actions.

JMO

EBM to say that I am happy that you are safe.
 
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Would just like to state an observation that I’m sure will be unpopular, and I am not saying I agree with it: just something I noticed.

When Anne Hecht passed, she crashed her car into a home and had traces of fentanyl and cocaine in her system. Because there were no fatalities, she got sympathy.

There is currently another missing person who willingly stopped their meds and left their husband and children, but because there are no fatalities, that person has sympathy and “mental health awareness”.

But with NL, who also apparently stopped her meds, there is ZERO sympathy, because there were fatalities, despite her having a record of being kind, loving, and a good nurse.

It’s just interesting to me that “mental health awareness” seems to stop being a thing when somebody else is affected by it - then suddenly it’s “they should’ve known better”. We are talking about mentally ill people here — where do we draw the line on them “knowing better”? Their brain simply does not operate/process/rationalize the way a non-mentally ill brain does.

Again, not trying to garner sympathy for NL, just stating an observation that I’ve noticed — that mental health awareness is a great cause and that mentally ill people can’t help their actions. Until someone is hurt. Then it’s shame shame shame.

Would love to hear others thoughts on this. Cordially of course. :)
Questioned myself as to why i did not feel particularly angered by AH's case, but furious about this one and the answer boiled down to this - imo.
AH died and she alone died,
NL lives and 6 people were crushed and burned to death.
 
Would just like to state an observation that I’m sure will be unpopular, and I am not saying I agree with it: just something I noticed.

When Anne Hecht passed, she crashed her car into a home and had traces of fentanyl and cocaine in her system. Because there were no fatalities, she got sympathy.

There is currently another missing person who willingly stopped their meds and left their husband and children, but because there are no fatalities, that person has sympathy and “mental health awareness”.

But with NL, who also apparently stopped her meds, there is ZERO sympathy, because there were fatalities, despite her having a record of being kind, loving, and a good nurse.

It’s just interesting to me that “mental health awareness” seems to stop being a thing when somebody else is affected by it - then suddenly it’s “they should’ve known better”. We are talking about mentally ill people here — where do we draw the line on them “knowing better”? Their brain simply does not operate/process/rationalize the way a non-mentally ill brain does.

Again, not trying to garner sympathy for NL, just stating an observation that I’ve noticed — that mental health awareness is a great cause and that mentally ill people can’t help their actions. Until someone is hurt. Then it’s shame shame shame.

Would love to hear others thoughts on this. Cordially of course. :)
I agree with you. Anne Heche’s situation was pure luck that 6 people weren’t killed IMO.
 

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