CA - Malibu Creek State Park Shooting, Tristan Beaudette, 35, 22 June 2018 *Arrest* #2

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  1. margarita25

    margarita25 Well-Known Member

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    I don't recall this but would love to see this.

    Man I wish Foxfire was here with us. He would have all types of input, being the outdoorsman he was.
    I'm reminded him because of our discussions about possible military experience of perps in other cases.
     
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  2. margarita25

    margarita25 Well-Known Member

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    Anyone with information on the case was asked to call the sheriff’s Homicide Bureau at 323-890-5500. Tipsters can also call Crime Stoppers at 800-222-TIPS.
    Man shot to death at Malibu Creek State Park while camping with daughters in Calabasas – Daily News
     
  3. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    There's a random shooter out there regardless of whether or not TB was killed by one. So why not report it?
     
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    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    What is the name of the park?
     
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    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    I think those are all my comments.

    Their failure to issue warnings or publicize info about those shootings certainly doesn't inspire confidence.

    That doesn't change the fact that we are not LE. We don't have access to their information. To their evidence. We don't have access to their resources.

    A man is now dead. It appears clear they're working hard on this now.

    Hopefully they are getting assistance from other agencies that may have more experience, better resources and more objectivity than this substation may have.

    If it seems they aren't doing what they need to, are bungling, ignoring leads or allowing the public to be at risk, the local community and I think us websleuthers and hopefull the loved ones of TB, will hold their feet to the fire and try to hold them accountable.

    But so far, in the context of this specific homicide, it looks like it's being investigated thoroughly.

    A little too late but fingers crossed they will get the answers necessary to solving the case.
     
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    O/t, delete.
     
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    Anthony C. Beilenson Park
     
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    There were a number of posters making the same sort of comments, like you see on many WS threads. I wasn't singling anyone out, just pointing out the vague, perhaps reflexive LE praise-ology that might not be compatible with reality.

    We like to think those charged with public safety are in fact doing their jobs but there are many reasons - posted on this thread - to be skeptical about the Lost Hills substation and the quality of their work.
     
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    Yes, but the mistakes LE makes are seldom because they don't work hard or don't care.
     
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    True. And it doesn't change the fact that we don't have access to their info. We just don't.

    And we have zero right to that info because we are not LE. Which was really what those comments were about, in response to questions as to why we aren't being made privy to what they know. And why more info isn't being publicized.

    Just because we have qualms about the efficacy of this substation doesn't mean they should suddenly publish what they know to the general public. Doesn't make sense.
     
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    Yes...good thinking.

    Lions in the Santa Monica Mountains? - Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area (U.S. National Park Service)

    "The California Department of Fish & Wildlife is responsible for managing mountain lions in the state of California and determining when a mountain lion is a threat to public safety."

    Mailing Address:
    26876 Mulholland Highway
    Calabasas, CA 91302

    (*I monitor tracking in my area of CO...)

    *****
    Mountain lion P-23 killed on Malibu Canyon Road

    ""We've been tracking P-23 since she was just a few weeks old and have documented her dispersal from her mom, establishment of a home range as an adult, and birth to three litters of kittens," said Jeff Sikich, biologist for the Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area."
     
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    The public does have a right to information which is why you have legislation like on a federal level like FOIA and, in California, the California Public Records Act. An amendment to the California state constitution states very clearly that 'access to information concerning the conduct of the people's business is a fundamental and necessary right of every person in this state' and also that it's a basic right of citizenship.

    It's the government agency that needs to justify keeping things secret.

    You're conflating some things here and restating it in a way that I most certainly did not express in my earlier post. You're claiming that I said that LASD should publish what they know because the Lost Hills substation has a troubled recent history? Really?

    A good discussion will often feature different opinions and back-and-forths but it's against the spirit of a good discussion to twist another person's words.
     
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    The public, however, does not have a right to information that could potentially jeopardize an investigation, which I believe is what Gitana is referring to, although I don't want to put words in their mouth.
     
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    Well, I think we need to separate the homicide detectives, forensics team, (etc?), from the LASD deputies who are part of the Lost Hills substation. "LE" could mean all, some - don't know. I'm hopeful that the detectives and forensics team are doing a good job with whatever evidence they've been able to secure.
    I think what investigators are asking for from the public are witness observations - before, during, and/or after the shooting.
     
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    Ugh...the CBS News article says there was another shooting in the area around the same time on Monday morning...The Crime On-Line reporter misquoted her linked article. LE must have been talking about the 6/18/18 shooting of the Tesla.

    The CBS News article that Crime On-Line links gives a perspective overhead photo of the campsite with both tents & cars:

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