CA - Malibu, WhtMale UP4170, 20-30, in 4-foot hole, May'86

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  1. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Moderator

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    DoeNetwork Hot Case 1859 http://www.doenetwork.org/hot/hotcase1859.html
    NamUs UP # 4170 https://identifyus.org/en/cases/4170

    Unidentified White Male
    Found May 4, 1986 near 2530 Topanga Canyon Boulevard in Los Angeles County, California.

    Vital Stats
    Estimated Age: 20-30 years (Dental Age: 30-40)
    Estimated Weight: 130 lbs
    Height: Per NamUs: 68 inches (5 feet 8 inches) - Per DoeNetwork: 66-69 inches
    Hair Color: Black

    Condition
    Body Parts Inventory: All Parts Recovered
    Body Condition: Not recognizable - Near complete or complete skeleton
    Probable Year of Death: 1986

    Clothing and Accessories

    Clothing: Found in a trash bag were blue Levis, (leg pants cut-offs) 32-w x 34. A blue and black hooded sweatshirt, size small; gray Nike shoes, size 9 and black socks. Prescription eye glasses; purple nylon underwear; blue knit cap and a green backpack.​

    Circumstances of death
    The victim was found nude in a 4 foot hole, 400 yards north of 2530 Topanga Canyon Boulevard in Los Angeles County, California on May 4, 1986.​

    Identifiers
    Fingerprints: Not Available
    Dental: Maxillary Available (Mandible Not Found)
    DNA: Sample submitted - Tests complete​
     
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  3. CCart

    CCart Verified registered nurse

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    NamUs states the upper body was skeletal and he was measured at 130 lbs - probably safe to add some weight to that estimate if that's the case. The clothing and shoe sizes do point to him being a smaller guy, though.

    This guy caught my eye: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gallen_steven.html I'm taking some liberty with the hair color, as I've seen dark brown called black and visa versa, and what would have brought him to Malibu from San Francisco, I have no idea, but he fits the parameters.
     
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    Bill Paulson went missing in March of 1985. No clothing description, height and weight aren't quite correct but close.
     
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    The timeline works too. This PM sounds really good.

    Both men have DNA in NamUs, but I don't think it's a rule-out just yet. We don't know what type of DNA they have in the system; if one has nDNA and the other mtDNA, it won't trigger a match. This is worth calling in, just to be sure.

    (Somewhat off topic, but this is why I'm so frustrated that NamUs no longer allows civilians to see what type of DNA they have in the system.)
     
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    Those look like a good match to me. And in the photos, I would actually have called David's hair black. It's very dark. Maybe he decided to take off and hitchhike across country. This UID is a long way from Michigan but I don't think he can be ruled out solely on that.
     
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    Has David Bruce Rea been called in as a potential match for the UID?
     

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