Found Deceased CA - Maricela Garcia, 26, Reseda, 12 Jan 2017 #3

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  1. dally_doodle

    dally_doodle Well-Known Member

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    My thoughts exactly!

    I hope we eventually find out what happened but unless toxicology proves it was an OD, I don't know if we ever will.
     


  2. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    Unless there is a future arrest and trial....:candle:
     
  3. policyoftruth501

    policyoftruth501 Member

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    In addition, with the body so decomposed LE and the ME couldn't initially determine the sex, I would be surprised if they could perform any toxicology tests.


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  4. code4SAR

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    Just so you know theres a handful of us who have volunteered our time day and night for months working on this case outside of WS and my points about reading all the threads would shed a light on why im curious as to the broken phone scenario before she went to the church bacause it doesnt make any sense to me from all the facts and assumptions so far. Was hoping you could shed a light on something possibly new we all overlooked.

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  5. zencompass

    zencompass Hope springs eternal

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  6. Rachel1

    Rachel1 Well-Known Member

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    I always loved the saying-if the words don't add up, it's usually because the truth wasn't in the equation
     
  7. xmsmadex

    xmsmadex Former Member

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    And I respect everyone who is involved. Based on all information given it does appear that the phone found was hers and that it was ditched before she entered the church. So like I said if there were two phones then she may have still had a phone but she did not have both phones. This is backed up by Mistivons account in thread 1 and the scent dogs route.
     
  8. code4SAR

    code4SAR New Member

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    A lot has happened since thread one including Mistovins, mine, and others thoughts on MGs path, accuracy of dogs, and when the phone was smashed, which was most likley after she left the church, if it is determined to be hers through either biometric and digital analysis or both. The area where the phone was found is by a dumpster in a heavily populated homeless area and vey well couldve been picked up and moved by someone else. Theres also the possibilty that it was thrown from a car after she was either abducted or OD'd. I questioned your initial post arguing with Lisa stating MG had no phone in the church because you were very confident of that. Then when it was posted she had two phones on her you stated she might of had the other one in the church, but that the one found was definatley smashed before she went into the church. If that was the case why did she go into the church then back outside to a perpetrature without alerting anyone that someone is trying to kill or abduct her? Also, it was over a week before anyone searched the area with dogs and the brother located the phone...not the dogs. Leads me to believe it was thrown from a car or moved from its initial location.

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  9. xmsmadex

    xmsmadex Former Member

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    I in no way was "arguing" with Lisa I am sorry that I came across like I knew for a fact she didnt have the phone. Everything you are using to combat me is speculation, nothing you have said is verfiable fact. Just like what I too am saying is not fact it is simply my opinion, which I have stated in every post to you. <modsnip> We are all speculating here. Could the phone have been moved or tossed from a car? Yes. But it could have also been smashed by MG before she ever got to the church. Yes.

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  10. Greater Than

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  11. Rachel1

    Rachel1 Well-Known Member

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    In a case like this, I can totally understand people getting upset or snippy . It's extremely frustrating for those of us who tried our best to look at this case.
    I believe that Maricela deserved better. It angers me that she didn't get treated the way she deserves. ( In every aspect this could've and should've handled differently)
     
  12. code4SAR

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    Sorry, wasnt replying to any of your posts&#128521; the post was related to anothers previous posts regarding her not having any phones while in the church and reiterating that it is highly unlikley that MG smashed one of her own phones then retreated temporarily to her church to then be met with foul play after leaving. I do believe she loved her sister and would do anything to protect her, but i feel she was met with foul play by the hands of someone she knew and the phone found was dumped. The dogs didnt follow her scent behind Goodwill where the phone was found which leads me to believe it was tossed possibly into the dumpster or somewhere else and found by a person in the area or thrown from a car, and im leaning towards the latter being it looked like it had been run over. Quite the mystery but im confident since its now a homicide investigation that LE will come forward with more leads hopefully capturing the suspect or suspects. At least at this point the case is moving forward and I can scratch off a few wild goose chases given out by tipsters into recent sightings so we can all focus on the known facts of that night and location she was last seen.
     
  13. LisaWL7TR

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    I agree with everything you posted! : )
     
  14. LisaWL7TR

    LisaWL7TR Well-Known Member

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    Sorry. I just came back to read. I didn't mean to argue if I did that is why the moo.
     
  15. LisaWL7TR

    LisaWL7TR Well-Known Member

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    Wait. 2 phones was new to me. But I did think she had a phone in the church someone posted she didn't. Confusion at it's greatest!!! I am sure LE knows. Sadly at this point it doesn't matter...Maricela is gone :(
     
  16. LisaWL7TR

    LisaWL7TR Well-Known Member

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    Imho...i don't feel it was an od. I could be wrong.
     
  17. LisaWL7TR

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    Do you think perhaps bones were missing or just because of decomposing?
     
  18. LisaWL7TR

    LisaWL7TR Well-Known Member

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    Imho...in another case I went back to the beginning reading msm reports and things I didn't see back then or I didn't see as important stood out when I went back to read.
    It was a lot of reading and new findings but that case is still a missing person. Sigh.
    Peace.
     
  19. Hraefn

    Hraefn Verified Attorney

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    When she left the church its possible she looped around back of the Goodwill, the dogs tracked her scent back there. It could have been before or after the church, the SAR crew could not say for sure. Check the map in my signature for the possible route. Click the links to Mistivon's original posts about the route and dog search for info on how the route could have been different than exactly what was mapped out.

    We were told one phone was for calls and texts and the other one was used for internet access. Also I've been wanting to say, I think her sister is smart enough to know a phone call versus music playing on the phone. She lived with Maricela, she knows her ring tone. But I think there was legitimately music playing on the phone and it was not phone calls. I believe any communication was through a more anonymous texting app, not a phone call. This is all JMO.

    I think an OD and someone panicking and hiding her body is as likely as foul play at this point. I do not think Maricela left that parking lot on her own free will, whether unconscious or taken I can't yet say what my opinion is.

    I am just so heartbroken for her family and those who are close to them. I hope they can get some answers.
     
  20. xmsmadex

    xmsmadex Former Member

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    Agreed, I wasnt aware of a second phone either, but I think most of whats been duscussed is merely speculation. I thought the phone was ditched before she ever got to the church, I couldnt understand why, if she had a phone, she didnt call for help, but perhaps she wasnt in the trouble I thought she was.

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