CA - Mario Woods, 26, shot by LE, San Francisco, 2 Dec 2015

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  1. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers Well-Known Member

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    Dec. 4:
    Pictured: Man shot dead by TEN San Francisco cops when he ignored their order to drop his knife
    ^Images and video. Graphic.

    Dec. 4:
    New video emerges of San Francisco police shooting man with knife – video (GRAPHIC)


    Dec. 7:
    Video Evidence Appears to Contradict SFPD Account of Mario Woods Killing

    This was 10 days ago. I searched for a thread and didn't find one.
     
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  3. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers Well-Known Member

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    Dec. 11:

    San Francisco: Police release names of five officers who fatally shot man

    Dec. 11:
    Graphic new video released in fatal shooting San Francisco police shooting of Mario Woods


    Dec. 12:
    Family sues as video casts new light on police killing of Mario Woods

    ^Lots more here, including video
     
  4. bwt42

    bwt42 Active Member

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    Watching the video I can't make out any shots being fired.
     
  5. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean? No one is denying he was shot.
     
  6. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    The police department said the five cops opened fire after Woods refused to drop an 8-inch knife he was carrying The cops were responding to a stabbing report in the city's gritty Bayview neighborhood when they encountered and surrounded Woods....

    Martin Halloran, president of the police union, maintained the officers acted appropriately: they first fired their weapons after pepper spray and the shooting of bean bags full of lead pellets, all of which failed to stop Woods.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...n-killed-cops-files-lawsuit-article-1.2463659

    It has been said that he stabbed someone and was running from the scene. Then he was pepper sprayed and shot with pellets, and he still refused to put down his knife. Are the cops supposed to let him run off with his knife in hand? They tried two less than lethal methods and he was not complying.

    What were they supposed to do next? Hand to hand combat with a perp with a knife?
     
  7. bwt42

    bwt42 Active Member

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    I thought my statement was pretty clear. I watched the videos purporting to show the shooting and saw no shooting.
     
  8. bwt42

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    I learned an important lesson tonight. Don't comment on a video you watched without audio. Without audio I couldn't make out when he was shot.
     
  9. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers Well-Known Member

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    Ah, okay. That makes sense.
     
  10. kimlynn

    kimlynn Well-Known Member

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    Why didn't they use a taser? I just don't understand why they would shoot when there was another option. He wasn't lunging at the officers...he was walking away.

    Scary how often this is happening and the claims by LE of self defense. IMO
     
  11. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers Well-Known Member

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    By now they all know they're being recorded, but they still do it. So they must think it's an acceptable action and the "feared for my safety" line is an excuse that covers anything. And too often it does.
     
  12. Juan23

    Juan23 New Member

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    It is very easy to sit on the sidelines and second guess a guy coming at you with a knife. Would it have been better if the guy stabbed the cop first?
     
  13. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers Well-Known Member

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    It would be better if he hadn't been murdered.
     
  14. Montjoy

    Montjoy Inactive

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    Sure -- but if you watch the video, there was absolutely nothing to indicate 'a guy coming at [anyone] with a knife'.
     
  15. i.b.nora

    i.b.nora I am polka dot

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    San Francisco does not have tasers. The Police Commission has thus far denied them and wants further or more advanced police training to deal with these kind of situations (kind of like they used to do). The Police Union wants tasers and after that they will be asking for bazookas. I say, demilitarize the Police, (and ban guns totally), but, that's just me.
     
  16. ninij9

    ninij9 Well-Known Member

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    Did the man he was thought to have stabbed survive?

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  17. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    Then why didnt he drop the knife?
     
  18. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers Well-Known Member

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    I think so.

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...-confrontation-caught-on-video-san-francisco/
     
  19. kimlynn

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    Why do you assume LE would have been harmed unless the suspect was shot to the point he was prone on the ground dead?
    They manage fine in the UK (terrorist with knife) but our only option seems to be the use of a gun.
    It can be done. All it takes is want and better training. IMO
     
  20. kimlynn

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    So in SF lethal force/gun is better than a taser. I agree they could use better training but until then (I never thought I would say this) they need tasers.
    All those LE in that video and they couldn't take him down without a gun....for shame. IMO
     
  21. kimlynn

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    Scary how many times we have only had their word due to not having video. IMO
     

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