Found Deceased CA - Mary Louise Day, 12, Seaside, 1980

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  1. Laughing

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    dixiegirl1035 Well-Known Member

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    I watched the 48 hours episode on Mary Day last night, WHOA. Of course, I then searched to see if it had a thread here, and voila, it was.

    Welcome to any new members, and potential Verified Insiders that want to give us more of the story as I indeed was left at the end with soooooooooooooooo many questions. OMG This indeed was so different from what we see on these threads and my heart goes out to all those involved here.

    Again, I have so many questions.
     
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    Does anyone have a live link for the 48 Hours program free online?
     
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    LaborDayRN Masks Are Critical Not Political

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    @silverlionsun I'm glad you finally have some answers about Mary. Truly heartbreaking! What a difficult life she had. Are you the sister that was able to meet her before she passed? If so, I hope and pray it brought both of you some level of comfort and peace.
    I just want to make sure you see @PayrollNerd 's post above. Please take a moment to become a verified insider. That way we can talk more freely about the details as you know them.
     
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    Such a tragedy that MSM is still going with she may be a fake, but DNA and photo comparisons said she was real. Tragedy upon tragedy until and continuing even after her death in 2017 that she was not believed? I do want to know more of the story, vs. clickbait headlines.

    Mary Day Death: Was Phoenix Mary the Real Mary Day? How Did She Die?

    Could a suspected murder victim — back from the dead — really be an imposter?

    Cal**ro told CBS she also now believes the woman is her missing sister after she traveled with '48 Hours' to visit her shortly before her death.

    Detectives believe woman who claimed to be 'the real Mary Day' may have been an impostor | Daily Mail Online
     
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    Watched our recorded 48 Hours Mary Day episode this morning. What a bizarre story! She truly was a survivor to live into adulthood.

    SMH at the parents.

    Read a little bit on a couple of other stories about the case. What the heck did the cadaver dogs hit on at the two locations the family lived at?

    What caused Mary to leave Morie Kimmel's loving family after a year without a word?
     
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    About the cadaver dogs -- if very bloody clothing & bedding was buried, would these dogs alert to that?

    Still within the realm of possibility that this was an earlier daughter....

    JMHO YMMV
     
  10. Mysteries1974

    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    I remember seeing her picture in the recovered section of doe Network. Her story confuses me very much and I’m unsure if she’s still missing or not.
     
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    None of the investigators mentioned if the DNA on the sneaker matched Mary. Did I miss that part?

    It sounds like Mary had a few guardian angels along the way. The accent could be from damage to the vocal cords, maybe she had an underlying condition no one knew about. After so much pain from the beating it’s possible her memory was damaged. It’s not surprising Mary either couldn’t remember, or blocked out, horrid memories. Alcoholism can give you “wet brain” which causes memory loss.
     
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    I suspect she felt like she was getting too close emotionally and it scared her. Rather than work thru it, especially back then, she left. Poor kid.
     
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    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    I have formed quite a few theories about the case in the day I’ve read all these articles. I just don’t understand how Mary would forget about the inheritance since she and her sister talked about it prior to her disappearance and they even had “Mohawk” as a code word when they spoke of it.
     
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    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    Maybe the woman found was another child of Mary’s mother she gave birth too before Mary went missing
     
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    The woman found has both the mother and father's DNA. She's Mary.

    That poor woman seems like she had such a rough life, and no funeral to top it off. :(

    That was a rough watch for me.
     
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    Her step dad smashed her head into a tub - tubs back then were cast iron, not acrylic like now. Imagine having the strength and force of an adult propel a teens skull into a cast iron object. It wouldn’t surprise me if she suffered short term memory loss, mild brain damage or even brain bleeding. Whatever was used to clean up the mess was likely buried in the yard which would trigger the dogs.
     
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    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    Yeah, I guess DNA pretty much ties the mystery together. The fact that a child’s shoe was found gave me the feeling that Mary was buried back there at one point and then moved with the shoe being left behind
     
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    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    Most sources state she matched the mothers DNA, is the dads DNA match spoken about in the show?
     
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    Yes, in 2017 they did an updated DNA test and she matched both parents. She was Mary, what was left of her poor broken spirit and memory that is.
     
  20. annemc2

    annemc2 her name is Suzanne Marie Sevakis

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    It might have been due to head injuries or brain damage from chronic alcohol use that she forgot about the money. Or maybe even that much money wasn't worth reconnecting with her "mother."

    That photo of her in her last days is so sad. She looks so frail and you can see the same facial structure as in the photos of her missing profiles. Fascinating but heartbreaking case. I've remembered her for years, just that photo made her look so sweet and vulnerable. Turns out she was quite tough!
     

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