CA - Massive fire at Oakland warehouse party, 36 dead, 2 Dec 2016 #1

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  1. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    they are gonna use the crane to lower fokj in cages to shore up leaning part
     


  2. Maroon10

    Maroon10 Former Member

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    I'll look. The more I read on this man that ran everything, the more I hope he gets put away a long long time.

    I feel so bad for his children, bother their parents are drug addicts and to an extent murderers
     
  3. Hatfield

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    Totally agree. I saw her in one of the very early interviews shortly after the fire was put out. She did wonderful handling the media questions. She also showed much compassion for the victims.
     
  4. CoreyRocks

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    That cubby hole under the No Smoking sign shows a toaster oven, some wires /cords hanging, a fire extinguisher, and some large drinking water containers.
     
  5. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    It was a nice new SUV black made me pissed the thief
     
  6. Lilibet

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    I believe the sheriff or someone said at the PC that the original missing list was originally much higher than 100, but is now down to less than 50. But they don't expect a LOT more to be found.

    The missing include people whose parent calls because they haven't heard from their kid in awhile and they're afraid they might have been at the warehouse. LE is trying to account for all of them, which I thought was really compassionate considering everything they are doing.
     
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    I hope she does not try to ignore the culpability of her own city officials.
     
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    I watched the ABC Nightly News. I think Gitana or one of her family members was interviewed. A picture of her SIL was on the screen for some time. David Muir asked the reporter if the family had had anything confirmed and he said sadly, no....
     
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    I didn't get that impression at all. But she made it clear when she was asked about the future (couldn't hear questions well) that her immediate priority is what they are currently working on. They will deal with other things later. The DA indicated a very complete investigation was taking place.
     
  10. katydid23

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    But isn't this HER responsibility as well? She didn't know about people living in unsafe conditions in warehouses throughout the city? I think she did.

    Don't the Building Inspectors answer to HER?
     
  11. Hatfield

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    What is real scary to me is I heard 2 or 3 interviews from people who did get out and they said they grabbed their fire extinguishers but the fire spread so fast they were not of any use.

    That is scary how fast this fire must have spread. It makes me rethink my own fire security plans. I have 3 different types of fire extinguishers and now wondering how good they really are in a serious fire. I have an electrical based one and a large standard one and a smaller one.
     
  12. CARIIS

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    just all the way around give us a break huh!

    Several claimed they ran for fire extinguishers, and the one guy who has been on media while the flames were still reaching for the stars and has not left (!) said it did not work.

    Probably antiques!!
     
  13. katydid23

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    Well, she is in kind of a tough position. Because ultimately, SHE is accountable for the tragedy too. The Building code violations were ignored routinely all across the city. The Building Inspectors dragged their feet and no one was usually evicted from these unsafe situations, AFAIK.

    She is the Mayor. Much of this falls into her lap, imo. It is great that she is now hand holding, compassionate and 'transparent.' But is it too little too late?
     
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    Personally, I think he's too arrogant and self important to commit suicide. He's incredibly self indulgent but I don't see him indulging in actual suicide... A lame attention seeking pretend attempt maybe.
     
  15. Lilibet

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    She probably did know about the warehouses. I think they were common knowledge. As we've discussed, nothing moves quickly in these situations. And I doubt she is in a hands on position with individual building inspectors. That's one of many departments she oversees. Up until now, other problems like crime have been much bigger concerns. I'm sure the unsafe warehouse living situations will move toward the top of the list of priorities. It's kind of like playing whack-a-mole in her position, I imagine.
     
  16. LinasK

    LinasK Verified insider- Mark Dribin case

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    I got this information from Gitana who has spent much time at the Sherriff's Office center for the victims and is also in direct contact with the coroner.
     
  17. CARIIS

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    I think her email has crashed!!!!!!!!!!
     
  18. CARIIS

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    And....last night her number was 64
     
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    Reporter's last name: Lee- think it was Henry Lee, who I think also writes for the S.F. Chronicle. I watched it on KTVU Channel 2 around 4:30. I'm sure now it was Henry Lee- he is an investigative reporter for KTVU Channel 2, which is the Bay Area Fox affiliate.
     
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