CA - Multiple casualties after 'active shooter' opens fire, Thousand Oaks, 08 Nov 2018

Discussion in 'Rampage Killings and Terrorist Attacks' started by margarita25, Nov 8, 2018 at 3:42 AM.

  1. MaryG12

    MaryG12 Well-Known Member

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    The question is, why are they on these drugs?
     
  2. enelram

    enelram Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't you think they were actually planning to kill themselves
    first but something in their brain said make it a big splash by
    killing a bunch of other people? Not sure the thinking of these
    guys. What is really going through their brains?
     
  3. sassyblue

    sassyblue Well-Known Member

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    I was told by a Police officer friend that the off duty officers were unarmed.
     
  4. enelram

    enelram Well-Known Member

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    Quick scan says this is a myth- there's a new law since '88 making
    it illegal to mfr. or use guns that are undetectable.
     
  5. margarita25

    margarita25 Jessica Ridgeway. Never Forgotten.

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    Iirc glock 17s were made in the early 80s, so maybe before that law? Idk, thanks for the response!
     
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    margarita25 Jessica Ridgeway. Never Forgotten.

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    (Jinx poke poke you owe me a coke)
     
  7. enelram

    enelram Well-Known Member

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    BINGO!
    I wonder if it's common that veterans start or continue experimenting with recreational drugs once they're in the military
    and when they get discharged their behavior/brains are already
    addicted. Using PTSD as a reason for an addict to get all kinds
    of drugs would work. The PBS show mentioned the vet on the
    show had numerous types of 'uppers and downers' as well as
    oxycontin.
     
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    Hraefn Verified Attorney

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    Live updates: California shooting leaves 12 dead in Thousand Oaks - CNN

    ETA: This is Tamera Mowry-Housley's niece for those of you who didn't know.
     
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  9. margarita25

    margarita25 Jessica Ridgeway. Never Forgotten.

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    Yes, IntheDetails, in one of the other threads last week (now that is SAD that I can’t even remeber which one), I remember telling @bluesneakers that I’ve figured out imo what connects all these shooters:

    HATE.
     
  10. margarita25

    margarita25 Jessica Ridgeway. Never Forgotten.

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    So senseless!!!!!

    No words right now.

    Beautiful girl. Probably never harmed a fly.

    RIP Alaina and condolences to her family and friends.
    :Rose:


    Thanks for the updates in advance everyone. I have to get back to work, want to check in on Hania and Jayme real quick.

    Hugs and I’m really happy that we can talk about this together. This is a very important issue that needs our attention, imo and I appreciate everyone from different places and backgrounds being able to weighin re: insights on mental health, etc.

    (ETA: gosh this so pathetic that we are here AGAIN and so sooooon, I’m not even caught up in the other shooting threads. Gah!! I can’t believe this...well, yes I can.

    End rant)
     
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    margarita25 Jessica Ridgeway. Never Forgotten.

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    LaborDayRN Well-Known Member

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    Local news is saying there should be a press conference at 1:15 today.
     
  13. margarita25

    margarita25 Jessica Ridgeway. Never Forgotten.

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    Jmo, we have talked about the possible narcissism associated with these shooters, imo. Which is why I’m really worried that one of these days the shooter is going to be too narcissistic to commit suicide and will get away.

    And then we are going to have a serial mass shooter. Knock on wood and I hope my prediction is wrong.

    (O/T, but along these same lines of the increasing violence and these news possible hybrids that could emerge/be emerging, I’m also worried about a new more violent breed of child abductors MO wise, as it seems other crimes within the same incidents of abductions are being reported, such as carjacking and murder (Hania/Jayme -our 2 current active AAs, both 13 year old girls as we know...ftr we don’t know who the perps are or where the victims are at this time. Yes there have always been violent child abductions, I’m just saying that imo we can expect abductions that are going to be more violent in nature, MOO.

    ETA:
    I haven’t even looked at the other CA shooting thread I posted last night—-last I saw that shooter remained at large. I don’t know any details about that case yet.
     
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  14. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain't The Ones Beneath Your Bed

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    Easier said than done.

    But that’s really the issue, the desire to perpetrate mass murders like this. Each one seems to perpetuate the next one.

    Have a grudge? Want to make a name for yourself? Commit mass murder. That seems to be the logic.
     
  15. UKslueth2018

    UKslueth2018 Active Member

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    Spot on... How does that become their desire?
     
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    margarita25 Jessica Ridgeway. Never Forgotten.

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    I am more eager than ever to continue my mini case study and analysis I began in Pittsburgh. I hope this doesn’t remain on my “to do” list like everything else so actively putting this out there in the universe. I had started with 10, narrowed them down to 3, looks like I’ll likely have 5 now if I add the yoga shooter and Thousands Oaks. Which is a good number I think for a deep mini study of this sort.
     
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  17. Inthedetails

    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

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    You're right.

    Seems impossible and overwhelming to fix hate, and while hate can't be eliminated completely, I do think progress can be made. Even if others don't, I do think we can improve ourselves. All of us.

    jmo
     
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    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

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    That's the question worth spending our energy and time asking.

    By "our," I mean as a culture, not necessarily on this thread. :)

    jmo
     
  19. margarita25

    margarita25 Jessica Ridgeway. Never Forgotten.

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    Last night as all of this was unfolding, I was listening to a pastor on Fox News talking. He had just returned from Pittsburgh. And his little sister was at the Vegas shooting.

    While we were waiting for an update from LE he was talking about how much he feels for the families during this time, the ones who are trying to get a hold of their loved ones not knowing...he said it took him 24 hours to finally be able to make contact with his sister and that the initial hours are ones of absolute chaos.
     
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