CA - Mystery Surrounds Malibu Creek State Park Shooting Death Of Tristan Beaudette, 35 #2

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  1. RickshawFan

    RickshawFan Well-Known Member

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    That tent has two doors, one at the back, one at the front.

    Nature call in the middle of the night? Go out the back door, especially if you're going to be climbing over someone (e.g. sleeping kids) if you go out the front. Kick the shoes off when you're done and finish sleeping as though you never woke up.

    See the several links upthread on the tent design. To repeat: REI Co-op Kingdom 6 Tent | REI Co-op
     
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    People seem to be getting confused about these chairs. 2 of them look like kids' versions of the cheap-o Walmart chairs. Two of them are definitely adult chairs. Two of them are Helinox Chair One chairs, lightweight, compact, chairs for backpacking/kayaking/rock-concerts. They are low to the ground and very small. Many adults have trouble sitting in them and then getting out (you have to be pretty athletic); that's because the legs are only about 9 inches long (the cross bar is about 14 inches). They are useful for kids or adults. The seat height is all of 13.5 inches.

    There were more than 2 kids at that campsite. We know there were 2 adults. It's a good bet that the Helinox Chair Ones were for the other kids. If you are short kids chairs for a campground outing, by all means, dig out the mini backpacking chairs so everyone can have a sit.

    Helinox Chair One | REI Outlet
     
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  3. sasha17

    sasha17 Curiouser & curiouser

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    I agree. There's plenty of space to pull off to the side of the main road outside of the campground, or on one of the nearby side roads, and it'd be a relatively short walk in and out.
     
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    If I was camping and woke up to something like a gunshot, I would be quiet as absolute hell so as not to draw attention to myself, and out of terror. I would be listening for the sound of footsteps, or someone running away, or......anything at all. Which brings me to....the campground there is sand. Sand and maybe very dry almost dust. Footprints can be seen in it. When I saw the cops walking all over that it was So frustrating. Sure, there might be lots of footprints - but what if, just if, there was one that had a very unique tread and lead directly to or from the tent to..???

    As far as leaving a car or a bike - yes, that's most likely. But if I was going to commit such a godawful crime I sure as hell wouldn't park my bike and ride it anywhere right after committing it. Ditto with a car. Of course, someone could have waited and ridden or driven later - but then there's the question of being seen and being stopped. It would be too risky. But nope; I don't have any answers. Just more questions.
     
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    Again, just because I think it might be important - these are not 'woods'. There are trees - but it's mostly low vegetation. It's not like someone could run through the woods and not be seen anymore.
     
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    Please see what I wrote above 2 posts above. I'm curious what you think after reading it. Grabbing at straws at this point.
     
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    IIRC, there were a couple of unoccupied campsites. It's usually the policy to let drop-ins pay for and use these campsites if they're available. If there's no ranger, you register and deposit your money at the "iron ranger" (deposit pillar) near the entrance. There would still be the restriction of the 10 pm gate-closing, but someone could maybe have shown up before closing and after the ranger left. Unless maybe authorities have said that everyone there that night had a prior reservation?
     
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    Behind some camp spots there are some largish trees, including the camp spot that is right across the loop road from #49 and #51.

    The link for photos of campsites is on Page 1 of this thread.
     
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    Yes, there are some live oak trees - but not thickets or anything dense. There are also crunchy leaves on the ground around those trees which makes it more puzzling that/if no one heard footsteps crunching as the person ran away.
     
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    Ha! Authorities saying something? I keep waiting for them to say something....useful... But, radio silence. Hopefully they have a Lot of people out there now, waiting....and cameras up
     
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    It's interesting that no one is. This has all the makings of a high profile case. A white, upper middle class doctor killed while camping on a holiday. Kids involved. Summer season here.

    Typically these types of cases get a lot of attention.
     
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    Much more detail in the article:

    "Beaudette, who was camping with his two young daughters, was shot in the head at approximately 4:44 a.m. First responders arrived on scene and found multiple shots to the tent and, while Beaudette’s daughters were unharmed, they were covered in a substantial amount of blood prompting emergency personnel to check them thoroughly for bullet wounds."
     
  16. sasha17

    sasha17 Curiouser & curiouser

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    About not leaving in a car because you could be stopped and questioned? Sure, if your car was parked a long distance away and it was going to take some time to get there after committing the crime. But if the car was parked off the main canyon road directly to the east of the campground, it would not be hard to get back there and head south very quickly, likely before police or anyone arrived, assuming 911 was called immediately.

    IIRC from my experience with the camping reservations system in California, drop ins weren't permitted because people are allowed to arrive at any time (up until gate closing) for their reservation. Some people arrive really late because they leave work late or travel from a distance away. When the gate is closed at night, no one can enter, whether or not they have a reservation.

    (I remember one camping trip I took where we got in just before the gate closed for the night because we had car problems on the way to the campground and were really delayed. But they keep your site saved for you and don't give it away to others who happen to drop by.)

    The "iron ranger" style campgrounds do exist, in further out/less popular campgrounds. But this campground is super popular and always booked up through the reservation system. Authorities did say in this case that 60 of the 63 sites were occupied the night of the shooting, which I interpreted to mean that 60 of the 63 families had shown up for their reservation and 3 didn't make it for whatever reason.
     
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    This is absolutely horrifying. Those poor girls.
     
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    Yep you are right.

    This whole case just has me totally perplexed on possible answers. I go back and forth on random vs. someone known to victim.

    We have a daughter in LA and one week before this shooting I hiked the Parker Mess Overlook Trail in the neighboring Topanga State Park. Contrasting the beauty of those memories with this evil has me very interested in the outcome of this case.
     
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