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  1. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Starting a new thread per user request.

    Doe Network 1225UFCA http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1225ufca.html
    NamUs UP4370 https://identifyus.org/en/cases/4370
    NCMEC Case 1184175 http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1184175/1

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    Unidentified White Female

    The victim was discovered on August 26, 1980 in Canyon Country, Los Angeles County, California
    Estimated Date of Death: one to two months less than one year
    Cause of Death: gunshot wound to the back of the head. A .25-caliber jacketed bullet was removed from the temporal area of the skull. ​

    Vital Statistics

    Estimated age: 15 - 18 years old (15-20 per NamUs)
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5' 4" - 5' 8" (5'5" per NamUs)
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Blondish brown hair. (Brown per NamUs)
    Clothing: Red sweatshirt with zipper front.
    Personal Effects: One 3/4 loop pierced earring with backing.
    Dentals: Available
    DNA: in CODIS ​

    Case History
    (Per DoeNetwork)
    The victim was located in the brush on a hilltop, 1/2 mile west of Sierra Highway, 3/4 mile north of 25221 Sierra Highway, in Canyon Country, California. A worker inspecting some nearby water towers came upon some human bones, scattered in a 10-foot radius about an oily spot
    She was another victim of the Sunset Strip Serial Murders. The suspect, Douglas Clark, was put to death.

    (Per NCMEC)
    On August 26, 1980, the skeletal remains of an unidentified female were found in the vacant lot of an oil field located approximately .6 miles north of 25121 Sierra Highway in Newhall, California (Los Angeles County). Based on the condition of the remains, it is believed she had been deceased less than 1 year prior to discovery. She had light brown to blonde hair that was approximately 8 inches in length. The decedent had pierced ears and was found wearing one yellow metal ¾ inch hoop earring as well as a red zip-up sweatshirt. The decedent had a healed craniotomy on the left parietal area of her head. She also had 4 fillings in her teeth. The reconstruction featured above is an artist’s rendering of what the Jane Doe may have looked like. Anyone with information should contact the Los Angeles County Coroner, reference case number 80-10981.​
     
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    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Both Kimberly and the UID are in CODIS. So if they were a match, there probably would have been a hit.
     
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    I thought the UID had no DNA, Kimberly has DNA -- UID has dentals - Kimberly no dentals?
     
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    I guess doe net says in codis, namus says none?
     
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    Slightly off topic, but Douglas Clark is still alive AFAIK.
     
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    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    They should have said he was sentenced to death.
     
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    NamUs-
    Date last modified February 11, 2015 15:08

    The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
    First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
    Cheryl Wyant 1964 California


    New doe link- http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1225ufca.html

    And all three listed sites in the top post now have Estimated Age: 15-20 years old listed

    I'm not sure anything else has been changed but thought it was worth the bump.
     
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    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    This girl, Cecile Frances Moch is not on any of the missing persons sites; however, she is still missing out of Santa Barbara County according to the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's department. She is also listed on the Walker County TX Sheriff's rule-out list for their 1980 Walker County Jane Doe (though not on WCJD's NamUs rule-out list).

    She attended Rolling Hills High School in Rolling Hills Estates CA - Class of 1978.

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    According to the SBSD, her stats are as follows.

    DOB: 17-Sep-1960
    Date of Last Contact: 07-Aug-1980.
    Age LKA: 19
    Race: White
    Height: 5 feet 3 inches
    Weight: 100 pounds

    There is no indication of the circumstances of her disappearance.

    She was LKA less than a month before these remains were found. Her age is about right, but her listed height is a little short compared to the Jane Doe. Her hair color is about right, though her hair in the photo is longer than 8 inches. Maybe she got a haircut after her senior year in HS.

    She doesn't look like the jane doe in a general sense. But her facial features do align up pretty cleanly to this facial reconstruction:

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    Also, the Jane Doe is said to have a healed craniotomy on the left parietal area of her skull. The parietal area is the side of the skull just above the temple. Look at Cecilia's left parietal area. there *might* be some sort of anomaly right there.
     
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    a craniotomy is usually performed to remove a brain tumour, hoping that this medical detail could help to ID this girl, they cannot be many 15-20 yo who had this type of surgery performed!
    it makes you wonder with unidentified MPs, does the family searched for them, gave up on them? so many questions and almost no answers
    how do they know she was a victim of douglas clark?


    lupus est homo homini, non homo, non quom qualis sit novit
     
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    Her body was found in close proximity to another one of his victims, and a bullet that matched one of his guns was found lodged in her skull.
     
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    It isn't likely, but does anyone think Diane Dye could be a possible identity since both cases are from California? The face shapes don't look exact, yet because the UID was skeletonized, there is less to go on when making reconstructions.
     
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    My best guess would be that the Jane Doe was likely a runaway or a local young adult, given the circumstances that she was possibly killed by a prostitute killer. Many of the MP cases are believed to have been abducted (such as Rachel Trlica and Lisa White) and the Jane Doe probably left home willingly if she was a runaway.
     
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    When they questioned the killer did they get any information about who she was from him?
     
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    thank you!


    lupus est homo homini, non homo, non quom qualis sit novit
     
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    Douglas Clark denied killing her at the time, but he recently admitted committing the Sunset Strip murders. At the time of the crime, he told his partner, Carol Bundy, about the murder. He described the UID as a prostitute with blond hair. Unfortunately, not much else is known about her.
     
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    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I received some information regarding Cecile from one of her classmates at Rolling Hills HS.

    Cecile was in Santa Barbara attending UCSB (University of California Santa Barbara), having just completed her Associate in Science degree at Santa Barbara City College.

    Cecile’s AMC Gremlin was found abandoned in the Santa Ynez Mountains northeast of Santa Barbara. A search team combed through the mountainous area looking for her, but found no sign of her.

    She was working as a server at the Sunburst Farms Restaurant in Gaviota CA. Sunburst Farms was run by the Brotherhood of the Sun commune, a cult founded by Norman Paulson. The cult initially advocated a holistic lifestyle based on meditation, living from the land, organic farming, and chastity, but eventually dissolved after Paulson became paranoid and started stockpiling weapons and running military drills. Some people have speculated that her disappearance is related to her connection to Sunburst Farms; however, there is no direct evidence linking her disappearance to the commune.


    here is some info regarding Paulson and Sunburst Farms. (Cecile is not mentioned in any of these articles):

    http://www.montecitojournal.net/archive/13/26/1185/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunburst_(community)
    http://articles.latimes.com/1989-07-10/news/mn-2633_1_early-years
     
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    I knew some people who had moved away from Sunburst. They had become disillusioned by the lead guy's hypocrisy and left. There weren't any issues with that and it wasn't the kind of setup to kill people over disagreements.
     

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