CA - Noe Medina, 7 mos, thrown from 4th floor of building, 22 Aug 2011

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  1. JoeFromLB

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    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/08/baby-thrown-off-parking-.html

    Orange police were looking for suspects Monday night after a baby was in critical condition after being thrown or dropped from a parking structure at Children's Hospital.

    "We want to get our hands on the suspects," Sgt. Dan Adams told The Times.

    He described the incident as a "horrific crime." A passerby saw the baby, who police believe is between 1 and 3 months old, falling from the second story or higher of the parking structure and called 911, Adams said.

    He said investigators were at the hospital viewing surveillance video and interviewing people to develop leads.
     
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  3. MsFacetious

    MsFacetious What a Kerfuffle...

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    i will never understand how people can try to kill little ones .. this just breaks my heart
     
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    Police: Woman arrested for throwing baby



    A 31-year-old La Habra woman was in custody Tuesday on suspicion of throwing her 7-month-old son from a parking structure at Children's Hospital Orange County, leaving him critically injured.

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    The break in the case came after the husband of Sonia Hermosillo contacted La Habra police about his missing wife and son. La Habra police then called the Orange police about the report, Adams said.

    http://m.ocregister.com/news/hospital-313348-fire-orange.html
     
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    OH MY! I hope this little angel recovers..I cant even imagine the pain this little one is going through...dear god what in the world is going on with these women?
     
  9. MsFacetious

    MsFacetious What a Kerfuffle...

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    They said 1-3 months... not 7 months... what made them think that? That isn't a small discrepancy, doctors can generally tell the difference. Was the baby just extremely small?

    If this is another "I can't handle my baby with health issues" situation I am going to scream.

    Her husband may have even seen the news reports about this baby and disregarded it because of the age range given.

    I don't understand people.
     
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    MsFacetious What a Kerfuffle...

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    Hermosillo's husband, Noe Medina, says his wife was hospitalized in May for depression and was not allowed to be alone with the baby, according to KTLA Channel 5.

    Medina says Hermosillo grabbed the baby Monday while he was watching the couple's two other children at a home in La Habra.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/08/mother-thrown-baby-happy.html


    Orange police Sgt. Dan Adams said the infant was tossed from the fourth floor of the structure at 455 S. Main St., around 6:20 p.m.

    The infant's father, Noe Medina, said his son is in the intensive care unit clinging to life.

    "I don't know what happened yesterday," he said in Spanish.

    Medina said his wife, who suffers from postpartum depression, grabbed their son and left their La Habra home about 5:30 p.m. while he was watching their daughters.

    Hermosillo was cooperative during questioning, but showed no emotion, Adams said.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44242121
     
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    Police said they believe they know Hermosillo's motive, but they declined to reveal it. Hermosillo was not believed to have been involved in a domestic dispute or a custody battle, police said.

    "We are sure that this act was done on purpose," Adams said.

    One former neighbor said the baby may have suffered from some kind of birth defect, and photos of the boy show him wearing some type of helmet. Police said that the baby was not wearing a helmet at the time of the incident and that they are not focusing on any sort of birth abnormality.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/l...hospital-2-20110824,0,3796426.story?track=rss
     
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    Dad: Mother never accepted baby’s condition


    A woman who her husband says never accepted their 7-month-old son as "normal" was arrested on suspicion of the throwing boy from the fourth floor of a Children's Hospital of Orange County parking structure and is undergoing a psychological evaluation in the jail's medical ward while her son clings to life.

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    "She found herself alone with the baby, and I think she saw the moment as her opportunity to grab the baby, get the car and leave," Medina said in Spanish on Tuesday afternoon at the hospital.

    Medina, 29, said his wife was hospitalized in June after she said she didn't want their son, who was diagnosed with congenital muscular torticollis – a twisting of the neck to one side. The infant also wore a helmet to help correct his plagiocephaly, also known as flat-head syndrome. It was unknown if Noe, named after his father, was wearing a helmet when he was tossed over the railing.

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    "She didn't look at our son as normal," Medina said. "She didn't accept him. She didn't accept that he was like this."

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    Medina said his wife was taking medication for postpartum depression and went to her first therapy session Monday morning at Mariposa Women and Family Center in Orange.

    Medina said his wife showed improvement in recent weeks and "began to trust her."

    http://www.ocregister.com/news/hermosillo-313371-structure-blazer.html
     
  13. Charlie09

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    I think the police were involved not because of a birth brain injury, but an abuse brain injury. (ETA - obviously by post above my suspicion isn't correct - although why would she not be allowed to be alone with the aby if there wasn't prior instances of abuse?)

    The interesting thing is, she dropped the baby where he would be seen with the constant in and out, my understanding from friends that have been to CHOC - say if she'd been on a different side, in all probability the baby would have gone unnoticed for quite a while.
     
  14. MsFacetious

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    I KNEW it.

    I knew there was going to be some "special need" here that the parent just "couldn't accept."

    I am incapable of understanding how something so small can be such a big issue to a parent. I understand a major diagnosis taking time to accept... but this just is not that big of a deal.

    I tried to find a facebook page for Mom... she doesn't appear to have one.
    Dad has one however, with pictures galore of his family.

    Just FYI - the Dad doesn't normally wear a wedding ring from what I can tell, so don't read anything into the fact that he isn't wearing one now...

    It appears that Noe currently wears the helmet.

    It does make me wonder if he had the helmet on when she threw him off.

    If he did have it on, that might help explain why he's alive after falling 4 stories.

    If it was removed after she took him... it might show more that she really thought it out and wanted to kill him... more like Andrea Yates.

    This does sound more like Andrea Yates... "premeditated" yet didn't try to run. Or... just didn't want her "defective" child to live. :cry:

    What about her beautiful little girls who obviously adore their baby brother? They don't see anything wrong with him.
    Can you imagine what this is going to do to them? To know their Mom did this to their baby brother?


    This album includes the picture in the news article, I think that's pretty good verification it's the right guy.

    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.108028015963622.9270.100002692731006&type=1


    Another album...

    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.107114772721613.8180.100002692731006&type=1


    There are two other albums I didn't link. Here is Dad's facebook though. He has of course talked to the media and been named. In my link above.

    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php...wall#!/profile.php?id=100002692731006&sk=wall
     
  15. MsFacetious

    MsFacetious What a Kerfuffle...

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    She said she didn't want the baby. I'm guessing that with postpartum depression they took that to mean she wanted the baby dead, or might want to hurt the baby. That's why she wasn't allowed to be alone with the baby.

    http://www.ocregister.com/news/hermosillo-313371-structure-blazer.html
     
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    The infant who received therapy twice a week at CHOC for conditions he was born with remained in the intensive-care unit Tuesday afternoon at UCI Medical Center in Orange.

    Noe, his father said, received physical therapy every Tuesday and Thursday at CHOC and was showing signs of improvement.

    http://www.ocregister.com/news/hermosillo-313371-structure-blazer.html


    Hermosillo appears to have picked the garage randomly,
    police said; they said it does not appear that the baby had ever been a patient at the facility.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/l...hospital-2-20110824,0,3796426.story?track=rss

    Granted, therapy doesn't make you a "patient" exactly. But it definitely eliminates her picking the place at random as well.

    It was less than an hour from when she took him to when he was thrown. Not a chance of anyone stopping her unless they knew exactly where she was going...
     
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    In these situations I wish the mothers would just walk into the hospital and say I can't handle this baby........bye..........and walk out.

    But nooooooooooo.
     
  18. MsFacetious

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    I wish the mother would just hand the baby to the Dad... who was obviously taking care of him since she wasn't allowed to be alone with him... and then leave.

    This does happen more often than I think people want to believe. 6 month old killed because she had Down syndrome...
    7 year old Jori just recently killed for his disabilities... it is parents who cannot accept it. Not their child.

    I have seen parents give the child up for adoption at a year old because they thought they would get over it... and they didn't.

    Last night, when I was putting BOTH of my daughter's orthotics on... just to go for a quick ten minute walk... I thought about Noe.

    It's a helmet. It's not even a lifelong thing.
    (My daughter's will both have lifelong issues with their legs, the different type of helmet and torticollis were gone years ago.)

    http://bestpractice.bmj.com/best-practice/monograph/759/follow-up/prognosis.html

    http://kidshealth.org/parent/growth/sleep/positional_plagiocephaly.html#a_Prognosis

    I can somewhat comprehend the hopelessness that can come with a lifelong diagnosis. But these two issues are just not.
    Obviously there is an underlying post partum depression going on here. So I can't expect to understand.

    There are many pictures of this mother with her girls... I have not seen one of just her with her son. Or a family picture including all 3 of her kids.

    Maybe at some point like with Andrea Yates I will just learn to have compassion for this woman.
    Maybe at some point later, she will become emotionally healthy and realize what she did to her baby and be devastated like Andrea.

    Until that point...
    my compassion lies with the baby with the head trauma. who shouldn't even be alive at all..
    The two innocent little girls/big sisters who are caught in the middle
    The Dad trying to stay strong for them all.
     
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    I am going to puke.
    Any attempt at compassion for this woman... maybe she just didn't think about what she was doing... that is all gone.
    This was premeditated and she wanted that baby dead. She took extra steps to make sure he would not survive.
    She didn't want the baby. She got what she wanted.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...g-validated-after-throwing-baby-to-death.html

    According to prosecutors, Sonia Hermosillo removed the baby’s helmet before allegedly pushing him from the parking structure.

    Then she reportedly walked into the hospital and validated her parking ticket.


    http://www.wreg.com/news/ktla-baby-falls-from-parking-structure,0,6548375.story

    Police say a baby thrown from a parking structure in Orange has died after being removed from life support.

    Her arraignment on charges of attempted murder with premeditation and deliberation and one felony count of child abuse causing great bodily injury, has been delayed until Sept. 16.
     
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