CA - Off Duty Police Officer shoots man and parents after altercation in Costco

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  1. RANCH

    RANCH Well-Known Member

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    I didn't say anything remotely like that.

    I think it's time for us to agree to disagree. I respect your opinion but for some reason you have a hard time with me being on the fence.

    It's time to move on.
     
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  3. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    I don’t see how the investigation can be completed without interviewing at least one of the parents. So we wait and hope that can happen soon. I doubt any information will be released until the investigation is complete.
     
  4. Poppyflower

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    PrairieWind Verified Attorney

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    Jessthinkin Well-Known Member

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    I agree...this is sad all the way around. :/
     
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  7. RANCH

    RANCH Well-Known Member

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    Here is a quote from French family lawyer Dale Galipo.

    So Galipo hasn't viewed any video of the shooting yet.

    PICTURED: Cop who killed unarmed nonverbal man in Costco - and dead man's mom may not survive | Daily Mail Online
     
  8. SoCalDavidS

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    Don’t worry Mr. Galipo, the police are on the case. No need for you to see the video yet. Rest assured the police will let you view the video when they’re ready.
     
  9. jjenny

    jjenny On Time Out

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  10. RANCH

    RANCH Well-Known Member

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    SBM

    If you're talking about the direct quote made by Galipo that I posted above I have no reason to think the Daily Mail made it up.

    If you're talking about something else let us know. Thanks.
     
  11. jjenny

    jjenny On Time Out

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    When exactly did they interview him? Could have been before he viewed the video. Doesn't seem to be the latest information in the article, considering the mother apparently came out of her coma.
     
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  12. RANCH

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    I don't know. It was published today. I guess they could have sat on it for awhile.

    I can't read any of the LA Times links you provided because they are behind a paywall. What time did it come out that the mother is out of her coma? Maybe that happen after the Daily Mail article was published.
     
  13. Poppyflower

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    I always thought with crime cases they were accurate and often are given info before others? In all the cases that I've followed, that I can remember (lol) they have been spot on. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  14. apricotpeach

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    LAist is part of Southern California Public Radio (SCPR) - not sure if that counts as MSM.

    As for why it matters whether the officer stated that he was a cop or not - if he did, then LAPD / City of LA could have some liability for his actions. If he didn't, then LAPD / City of LA would not be. If there was ever a civil trial, this might be a major factor in terms of determining damages.
     
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    mickey2942 Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. The longer LAPD keeps him on the payroll, the ticker will keep going that LAPD supported SS actions. If they have viewed the video, I wonder how long the investigation will be...
     
  16. jjenny

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    That's correct, but good luck to LAPD/City of LA with that defense-considering it would appear the case is treated as if the officer was on duty. As for civil trial, I am pretty sure there is going to be one. Family's lawyer is known for civil lawsuits in shootings involving officers.

    "He said he thought the jury’s monetary award might be the largest in the country involving a police shooting, and certainly the largest he has received from a jury in the 15 years he has been trying excessive use of force and wrongful death cases involving police."
    Jurors award $33.5 million to family of man fatally shot by sheriff’s deputy in Barstow – San Bernardino Sun
     
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    jjenny On Time Out

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    Try this one.
    Costco shooting: Wounded parents learn their son is dead. ‘They are devastated’
     
  18. mickey2942

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    That is the problem. The FBI and Congress really needs to get involved in this situation, regarding off duty police officers and on duty police officers, because there is not a consistent policy that specifies how to proceed with the investigation.

    1. Officers are not arrested.
    2. There is often no toxicology test, even though a regular citizen in the same situation would be mandated to have a toxicology test.
    3. Names are not released.

    There is so much more...but Congress is afraid of agitating the police union.
     
  19. apricotpeach

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    Would this be a federal thing, though? Can't (shouldn't) cities and/or states regulate this if they wanted to?
     
  20. jjenny

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    What I find interesting from this report is that Kenneth supposedly developed his mental condition about 10 years ago. Until then he wasn't apparently just normal but actually considered gifted. So that means he was 22 when his symptoms started to show. Seems about the right age for schizophrenia (a condition suggested by some relatives he might have had) and too late for autism. Unless there is an adult onset autism. Hopefully when parents recover we will find out what condition he actually had.
     
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