CA CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020

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  1. 10ofRods

    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    To me, it sounds how people talk when they are vividly remembering something and playing it over and over in their minds.

    It also sounds like a small detail in a larger story - but the syntax itself isn't suspicious. And it's not awkward for many English speakers.
     


  2. Taffy550

    Taffy550 Well-Known Member

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    This is just my opinion, and I may be completely wrong, but I don't think the adoptive parents had anything to do with this. Something just seems different. I truly hope LE, detectives, whoever look at everyone associated with these two kids. I watched the video interview of the parents again. Something is off and its not with the adoptive parents. JMO.
     
  3. bettyboop

    bettyboop Well-Known Member

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    I just thought I would chime in and mention that my mom and her sister were in foster care. I mentioned this in Serenity Dennard's thread as well. This was a very long time ago as my mom was born in the early 1920's. Because the girls parents were Canadian citizens the two girls were in foster care in the US and Canada. Eventually the girls were taken in and fostered by family in the US.
    My mom told me she always believed the family members fostered them just for the money. JMO MOO
     
  4. Curious-A

    Curious-A Well-Known Member

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    IMO...In that interview, TW seemed like he was about to use the past tense then paused, stuttered on the word “they” turned away from the press and used a future tense instead with an emphasis on the word ARE . Seemed like he was trying very hard to make sure he doesn’t use a past tense...starting at about @2:39 in the posted video. And what he says makes no sense either. They are going to be rambunctious and are going to be in this area? Huh?

    Seems like he’s trying to remember a story that he’d practiced....

    Bbm and sbm

    our boys they they ( looks away) ARE

    going to be

    rambunctious okay (clears throat)

    they ARE going to be here in this area

    and i really would like to go into

    houses but it's not because

    i want to invade people's privacy i just

    want to know...

    JMO
     
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  5. susiQ

    susiQ Well-Known Member

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    I’m really sorry but I don’t think my post came across as I had intended. I meant no disrespect to your post, at all. I guess I worded it badly? I didn’t mean you putting in your “two cents”, I meant the aunt. Yes, she is concerned, but these matters are best left for LE. The yelling at the adoptive parents just seemed “over-the-top” to me and unnecessary. JMHO
     
  6. Marg from Oz

    Marg from Oz Well-Known Member

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    I think the aunt has hopped on the band wagon and it all about her. When did she last see the boys? What contact does she have with them. It seems that this was not an open adoption and the bio family does not keep in touch. MOO
     
  7. LietKynes

    LietKynes "Law is the ultimate science."- Liet Kynes

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    Good catch, @Curious-A !

    Umm.
    I wouldn't let him into my house to 'search'. Just saying.
     
  8. Dre

    Dre Well-Known Member

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    I felt that too. He was just about to start the word “were” and stopped and switched it just in time to the present tense.
    Calling them rambunctious is not particularly endearing in this current situation, especially with zero other descriptors, moo
     
  9. rosesfromangels

    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    My first impression agrees with you. I thought the adoptive parents were clearly scared and nervous, but seemed genuine.
    That being said, the FBI and other agencies being involved, the digging up the back yard and bags of evidence being collected seemingly refute that impression.

    I think there will be a break very soon.

    Amateur opinion and speculation
     
  10. HayLouise

    HayLouise Law Student

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  11. Eloise

    Eloise Well-Known Member

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    I'd be open to considering bio family or local sex offender involvement if it wasn't for a) the fact LE have suggested, even vaguely, that there's no concrete proof the boys ever lived there and b) video footage doesn't show anyone leaving the house during that time.
     
  12. mcrazingwill

    mcrazingwill Well-Known Member

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    I’ve had similar thoughts. For both boys to go missing, along with their bio Mom clearly being unhappy about the adoption. But I keep going back to the timing of the adoptive parents other children being on vacation with Grandma ... seems so coincidental. I guess I’m stuck in limbo until there is more information to go on.
     
  13. Koukla17

    Koukla17 Well-Known Member

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    I don't recall hearing what the reason the family moved from Bakersfield to Cal City in September was. Does anyone know?
     
  14. Luckyzmom

    Luckyzmom Well-Known Member

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    Not much info being shared about the family. I would guess for work, there's not much of anything out there. Really...we don't know anything background wise. Maybe I have just missed it. Anyone know ? I believe they said in September so..
     
  15. Hexe

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    Wait. Anyone? Not even Mr West going out to gather the firewood?
     
  16. Inquisitive2018

    Inquisitive2018 Former Member

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    Bio mom would need resources to pull this off, resources I doubt she has. I'm surprised after LE's actions we are even entertaining anything but the obvious. But then again, stranger things have happened .....
     
  17. MsBetsy

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    I thought LE said there was no video of "the boys" walking through the gate.
     
  18. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    I doubt she has had any contact with them since they were placed in foster care after they were born. She didn't seem to know that they had been adopted. (She asked, You're the foster parents, right?) She also asked how long they had lived there.

    She probably only found out where and who they lived with when the biological mom was told they disappeared.

    Most adoptions today are "open" but that doesn't necessarily mean the parents communicate with the biological parent or that the birth parents are allowed to visit the children. Each situation is different.

    Many times it is limited to access to medical records and other information about how the children are doing. It all depends on what conditions were put in place before the adoption was finalized.

    Imo
     
  19. susiQ

    susiQ Well-Known Member

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    Yes, they did, but if half of the story is a lie, likely the other half is too! :) MOO
     
  20. dillysmom11

    dillysmom11 Well-Known Member

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    I will back almost any adoptive parent because it can be hell trying to help children with trauma heal while family/friends judge from the outside.

    However, wow this is so sketchy.

    I’m hoping that maaaaaybe the police and family are working quietly to get the children back from someone in the children’s past. That would explain the lack of serious emotion on the parents part, and the lack of searching/communication.

    I do want to add, TW stated he looked for the children at 5:30, officers arrived at 5:45. I’m not sure where the “waited too long to call police” theory came from. Hoping this wasn’t all staged. MOO
     
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