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Back in session on the third day of trial of Trezell and Jacqueline West, the couple charged with murder in the deaths of their adopted children Orrin, 4, and Orson, 3.
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9:07 AM · Mar 30, 2023
Prosecutor Eric Smith has resumed playing a video of an interview law enforcement had with Trezell West in the days after the boys' disappearance. They accuse him of lying, saying evidence shows the boys weren't at the home on the night he said they went missing.
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The video is 2 hours long, most of it played yesterday. There are about 10 minutes left. Trezell repeatedly denies having anything to do with the boys' disappearance.
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Trezell says he kept Orrin and Orson separate from the others. There was an age difference, the other 4 children in the house were being home-schooled.
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"You and your wife are full of (expletive)," California City police Officer Brian Hansen tells Trezell. He says their story is full of holes.
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Trezell leaves the interview room and Jacqueline West is brought in. The recording ends.
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Trezell was told he was not under arrest and was free to go.
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Officer Brian Hansen, who testified at length yesterday, is back on the witness stand. Smith is questioning him again.
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Hansen testified he made contact with a neighbor of the Wests named Jesse Dobbins. He saw he had a Nest surveillance camera and tried to retrieve footage but it hadn't been saved.
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On the night of Dec. 21, 2020, when the Wests reported the boys missing, Hansen said he believes he had contact with Child Protective Services. He said he never told them there was video of the missing boys walking in the street.
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A CPS report says otherwise, and Smith has said that was a mistake -- there was no footage of the children.
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Smith ended his questioning and Timothy Hennessy, Trezell West's attorney, has begun cross-examination.
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Hennessy is asking Hansen about his actions on the night the boys were reported missing. The attorney asks about looking for footprints, speaking to the Wests.
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Hennessy asks about using ruses, saying they have evidence they don't actually have in order to get someone to confess.
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Hennessy is displaying an overheard view of the California City neighborhood where Orrin and Orson were reported missing. He's using a laser pointer to point out the West home and the east dirt lot next to it.
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Hansen testified on the day of the report he reviewed surveillance footage from one house.
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Hennessy has moved the questioning to when Hansen questioned the Wests. He asked if Hansen and other officers were engaging in ruses and bluffing about evidence they didn't have when he spoke about having surveillance footage of the east lot.
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Hansen said it wasn't a ruse, he told Trezell he saw footage contradicting West's statement that he was doing yard work. From a doorbell camera across the street he couldn't see Trezell working in the yard, Hansen says.
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Hansen said he also told Trezell he didn't see any vehicles leaving the area in the footage.
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Hennessy asks Hansen if he looked backward from the time frame the boys were reported missing to see if any cars went by. Hansen says he doesn't believe he saw any cars go by other than Trezell West's van.
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Hennessy asks about the dogs used to search for the boys that night. The attorney asks Hansen if he would be surprised to learn the dogs were not trained to smell a specific human scent. Hansen said he's not sure what they were trained in.
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Hansen testified he believed they were searching for Orrin and Orson's scent and couldn't find it.
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Hennessy is asking about the sex offender registration list and the rules people have to follow if they're on it.
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There were roughly about 42 sex offenders in Cal City at the time the boys were reported missing. Hansen says he doesn't remember if they received a list of registered sex offenders that night.
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The first night he didn't follow up on any of those registrants, he was searching for the boys and interviewed the Wests, Hansen said.
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Hennessy is asking if it's true they didn't look into any sex offenders until 11 days after the boys were reported missing. Hansen is reviewing his report to see if that's accurate.
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That's correct, Hansen said. 11 days had passed. Hennessy notes Hansen wrote they were making contact with sex offenders to search their homes and see if they could find information about Orrin and Orson.
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Hansen said he believes they went to six houses, he doesn't recall what registrants he spoke to. Hennessy asked him to read his report for the information.
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Of 6 contacts, Hansen spoke to 2 registrants and to 3 people living at homes where people were registered. One address was wrong, Hennessy, said the person who was at the home said it wasn't the registrant's house. Hansen agrees that's true.
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Hennessy said that particular registrant wasn't where he was supposed to be living, and law enforcement didn't know where he was.
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Hennessy asked Hansen if he remembers saying, "Go (expletive) yourself." Hansen said he doesn't remember, and Hennessy says it's on the body-worn camera footage. Hansen again said he doesn't remember saying that.
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Hansen said he knows the interview ended poorly, but doesn't recall saying that.
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It appears Hennessy misquoted Hansen. What he actually said was "Get the (expletive) out of here," according to a transcript of the interview the attorney reviewed.
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Hennessy has finished his cross-examination. Alekxia Torres Stallings, Jacqueline West's attorney, is now cross-examining Hansen.
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Torres Stallings asked Hansen what he reviewed before coming to court to testify. He said hardly anything. He said he hasn't asked for transcripts of his prior testimony at earlier hearings.
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Hansen filed a 1-page report on the night of the investigation.
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Hansen testified he has used a personal cellphone for investigations, he wasn't given a work one by the Cal City Police Department. He said he no longer has the phone he had in 2020 and doesn't have messages or calls from that time saved anywhere.
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Torres Stallings asked about his unit's ID on the night of Dec. 21, 2020, and his communications with dispatch.
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"Is there any body-worn camera footage of you canvassing the area at all that night . . . ?" Torres Stallings asked. Hansen said he doesn't believe so.
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The cameras they had at that time were "really bad" and would turn off and on by themselves, Hansen said.
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The only body-worn camera footage from Hansen that night is when he spoke to Trezell and Jacqueline West.
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Torres Stallings is pointing out Hansen has never previously testified to reviewing surveillance footage from a certain residence, despite having testified at multiple prior hearings.
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This is the first time he's said that evidence existed. Torres Stallings asked if he was lying at earlier hearings, or if he's lying now. "Neither," Hansen said.
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The home where Hansen said he viewed the footage was located on Harvard Avenue.
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Hansen has no formalized training in footprint analysis, or on "dog hits," he said. He hadn't seen the search and rescue team's dogs before.
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Hansen is saying "I don't know" or "I don't recall" to questions Torres Stallings said he previously answered for the other defense attorney. #WestsTrial
Torres Stallings is now going over a diagram Hansen made. He made it on July 12, 2021, not around the time of the boys' disappearance. She's questioning his measurements in the diagram of the West address, yard and nearby residence.
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Torres Stallings asked Hansen if he knows if the West house and the house next to it are on the same level. The officer said he doesn't know.
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Torres Stallings is moving the questioning on to Child Protective Services. Hansen said he has contacted them before. The attorney has handed him a document.
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It's an emergency response log. Hansen said he doesn't recall contacting CPS the night the boys were reported missing despite his person phone number and name appearing on the document.
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Another document handed to Hansen says there is video footage of Orrin and Orson walking down the street. "That's what it says," Hansen said.
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In his police report, Hansen only mentions viewing surveillance footage at 2 homes. Torres Stallings is asking when he made contact with the homeowner across the street from the West home.
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Information on a log of police activities that night says the homeowner was contacted about midnight. Hansen testified he still doesn't remember what time he contacted him. Pressed by Torres Stallings, he said it was around that time.
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10:27 AM · Mar 30, 2023
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Court is in recess for 15 minutes.
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Back in session with Cal City Officer Brian Hansen being cross-examined by defense attorney Alekxia Torres Stallings.
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Hansen is checking is police report to see if he wrote about contact Nest Camera to obtain surveillance footage.
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It's not in the report, Hansen said. Torres Stallings asked if the first time he testified to contacting Nest was on March 9 of this year. He said yes.
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Torres Stallings is asking about diapers found at the home. Hansen said he's never bought diapers before, but the ones in the home said size 6. He said he wasn't aware diapers correspond to weight, not to age.
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Hansen agreed with Torres Stallings that the Wests had voluntarily allowed him to search their home before a search warrant was served on Dec. 29, 2021.
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Correction: Dec. 29, 2020.
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Torres Stallings said a photo was taken of a used diaper when the warrant was served.
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Hansen testified there were gifts for Orrin and Orson by the Christmas tree.
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Jacqueline West told police she was wrapping gifts while the boys were playing outside.
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Hansen confirmed there were Christmas stockings hanging for Orrin and Orson.
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Torres Stallings has displayed photos of the stockings and gifts that were marked for Orrin and Orson inside the home at the time they were reported missing.
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Torres Stallings displayed a bunk bed, and the officer agreed the bottom bunk would have been for Orson. There's a bin of toys next to the bed.
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Showing a photo of the dining room table, Torres Stallings noted there are seven chairs and five have Christmas hats on them. An eighth dining room chair with a Santa hat on it is seen in a photo of one of the bedrooms.
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11:20 AM · Mar 30, 2023
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