CA CA - Perris, WhtFem 726UFCA, Harley Davidson, 'Stoney' tattoos, Dec'88

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  1. tifflee

    tifflee Member

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    NamUs: https://identifyus.org/cases/7120
    Riverside County Sheriff's Department: http://www.riversidesheriff.org/coroner/unidentified/1988-5454.asp
    The Doe Network: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/726ufca.html

    From Riverside County Sheriff's Office:

    Year Died or Found: 1988
    Date Died or Found: 12-26
    Age: Adult
    Sex / Race: Female / Caucasian (to include Hispanic)
    Online Documents: Dental

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    Unidentified ID: U88-087
    Place of Death / Found: In an alleyway near 4th Street in Perris, CA
    Estimated Age: It is believed this woman is between 30-40 years of age.
    Hair / Eyes: She had brown/auburn hair and possibly blue or green eyes.
    Hair Length: Her hair was shoulder length (8-10 inches long).
    Height / Weight: She is 5'9" tall and was 105 lbs when found (not actual weight).
    Features or distinguishing marks: She had a series of tattoos on her body: (a) On right shoulder area is a horse's head that turns into a flower. (b) On the left shoulder area is a depiction of a Harley Davidson eagle with the name of "John " underneath. (c) On the right side of her pubic area she had a rose with leaves and the name "Stoney" underneath. She had pierced ears.
    Clothing: She had been wearing blue denim pants and white cotton underpants. No top was found and no identification or personal items were located.
    Circumstances: This woman was placed in a dumpster and set afire. She was found the following day with partial charring to her body. This death is being handled as a homicide.
    Other: 65454 (U88-087)
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    If you recognize this person, or have information about this case, please contact:
    Riverside County Sheriff
    Coroner's Office
    800 S. Redlands Avenue - Perris, CA 92570
    951-443-2300


    From Doe Network:

    Case File 726UFCA

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    Reconstruction of Victim

    Unidentified White Female


    • The victim was discovered on December 26, 1988 in Perris, Riverside County, California
    Vital Statistics


    • Estimated age: 30-40 years old
    • Approximate Height and Weight: 5'9"; 105 lbs.
    • Distinguishing Characteristics: Possibly Hispanic. Brown/auburn, shoulder length hair; possibly blue or green eyes. She had a series of tattoos on her body: (a) On right shoulder area is a horse's head that turns into a flower. (b) On the left shoulder area is a depiction of a Harley Davidson eagle with the name of "John " underneath. (c) On the right side of her pubic area she had a rose with leaves and the name "Stoney" underneath. She had pierced ears.
    • Clothing: She had been wearing blue, denim pants and white, cotton underpants. No top was found and no identification or personal items were located.
    • Dentals: Available.

    Case History
    The victim was located in an alleyway near 4th Street in Perris, CA.
    It is unknown where death occurred. It is believed that the victim was placed where she was found.
    She was placed in a dumpster and set afire. She was found the following day with partial charring to her body. This death is being handled as a homicide.


    Investigators
    If you have any information about this case please contact:
    Riverside County Coroner
    951-443-2300

    You may remain anonymous when submitting information.

    Agency Case Number:
    65454 (U88-087)

    Source Information:
    Riverside County Sheriff's Office



    Additional details from NamUs (direct copy/paste of responses in fields):

    Date found: December 26, 1988 at 11:20 AM
    Body condition: Not recognizable - Charred/burned
    Estimated postmortem interval: Estimated postmortem interval 1 Hours
    Location found: 330 E. 4th Street, Perris, California
    Circumstances of death: Business owners found this body sitll burning in the trash dumpster and summoned police, who extinguished the fire. No identification was established through all means. She had some dental work and tattoos
    Head color: Auburn hair covered her head about 8-10 " long
    Piercings: Pierced ears (one time each ear)
    Other medical findings: gall stones, atherosclerosis of arteries to the heart, enlarged lymph nodes near the liver that may indicate long term drug use.
    Fingerprint information is currently not available: charring of both hands
    Clothing on body: Blue denim material, possibly a skirt (charred)
    Green or black underpants with elastic waist band
    (most clothing burned off and unrecognizable)
    DNA Sample is currently not available: Not exhumed

    Two rule-outs: Patricia Schmidt (Virginia), Sally Schneider (California)
     
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  3. tifflee

    tifflee Member

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    Despite this Jane Doe's unique tattoos, she has remained unidentified for over two decades. From the information pieced together from her online profiles, it sounds like she may have led a rough life with possible long term drug use. This makes me think any search parameters have to be wider than usual because she could likely be estranged from family for years and any missing person report, if filed, may not be anywhere near the time frame she was found.

    One possibility to throw out there - Julianne Jaillet (Julianne Jaillett on Doe Network and Charley Project) who was last seen June 1, 1985. Something about her profile photograph seems to resemble the UID - maybe the nose?

    NamUs: https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/11898/
    The Doe Network: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1699dfwa.html
    Charley Project: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/j/jaillett_julianne.html
    Washington State Missing Persons: http://www.waspc.org/mp/missing.php?wac=90M0007897
    Seattle Post-Intelligencer: http://o.seattlepi.com/missing/missing.asp?letter=J

    According to NamUs:
    According to Charley Project, it has never been established that Julianne was ever actually in Reno, NV.

    The health issues the UID suffered from - gall stones and atherosclerosis - can be aggravated by alcoholism.

    The Doe Network:
    Case File 1699DFWA


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    Julianne Cecilia Jaillett
    Missing since June 1, 1985 from Bellevue, King County, Washington
    Classification: Missing

    Vital Statistics

    • Date Of Birth: January 28, 1949
    • Age at Time of Disappearance: 36 years old
    • Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'7"; 125 lbs.
    • Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; green eyes.
    • AKA: Julianne Mcadams , Julianne Mcquaid
    • Dentals: Available
    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Jaillett was last seen in Bellevue, Washington on June 1, 1985.

    Sometime after her disappearance, a small bag containing her belongings was found in a lobby in Reno, Nevada.
    Investigators
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:

    Bellevue Police Department
    425-452-6917
    Email

    Agency Case Number: 85B07480


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    tifflee Member

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    Side by sides. The second set looks less convincing to me since Julianne's face seems wider from a direct angle and the eyebrows are higher, but not sure if this is due to her expression as compared to the first set.

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    This is my mother we believe her body is in Bellevue WA or Falls City at his old property...I need media attention...asap.... more info is coming in regarding her case! I was on the Shellee Hale radio show in Bellevue WA in Oct. And everything is confirming she was killed over $$$ she spent and he is getting caught in his web of lies!!!....He never went to the police and my grandmother contacted them as soon as she found out she was missing...almost a month later....My mother did not deserve to lose her life...and he is walking free. I'm trying to get her case transferred to an actual cold case unit! SHE DESERVES TO REST IN PEACE. I want him prosecuted for her death he caused....
     
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    Tjcm93 Verified Insider

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    My beautiful mother...the holidays are here and we miss her so much! Please help me find her...i pray everyday she is found....
     
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    Bumping.
     
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    Cindy Irene King disapeared in 77 at age 15. It is mentioned that she has a tattoo near her groin. She's out of the age range being that in 88 she would had been 26. I think she looks slightly similar even though there isn't a straight forward shot of her.
     
  10. cvaldez1975

    cvaldez1975 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think being out of the range would exclude her. She lived a rough life so she may have aged quicker.

     
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    I strongly suspect that this UID is MARY JILL ADAMS [ http://charleyproject.org/case/mary-jill-adams] .

    -for some reason the site will not let me add in a side-by-side comparison-

    Mary went missing in 1986 less than 100 miles from where UID was discovered; her hair [naturally red/brown--unlike the profile pic] matches UID, her age matches exactly, her weight is virtually the same, and she has a Harley Davidson tattoo [although reportedly on 'abdomen' as opposed to UID's shoulder---however I have come to mistrust people's recollections of tattoo locations when reporting MP.]

    Mary's height varies quite a bit from UID's, but there is an obvious error in Mary's height on her NAMUS profile page, so I don't think that should be an automatic disqualifier.

    HOWEVER we will probably never be able to get a confirmation or denial... Mary did not have dental, DNA, or fingerprints on file, and UID only has dental for comparison. Below is the reply I received when I submitted Mary Jill Adams as a potential match for this UID:

    Your suggested match cannot be evaluated due to "identifiers". Identifiers are items used for comparison and to establish identity, ie fingerprints, DNA, dentals. Your missing person does not have dentals available for comparison while the only identifier that 726UFCA has available for comparison to any missing person is dentals. Thank you for your efforts in trying to resolve these cases.

    I guess we will never truly know. :(
     

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