CA CA - Rancho Cucamonga, WhtFem 633UFCA, 15-30, in vineyard, Jun'79 - *GRAPHIC*

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  1. digitective

    digitective Well-Known Member

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    The only MP I can find who possibly fits the description and who doesn't have fingerprints / DNA in NamUs (like JD does) is Wilma Vermaas: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/5489/
    5'3" - 5'5", 105 - 115 lbs
    Brown hair, brown eyes
    Missing from Los Angeles (41 miles away) since 4/3/76
     


  2. malaika

    malaika Member

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    Likely not her due to time frame, and as per NAMUS, DNA was submitted...But oh well we could at least get her name on the ruleout list.

    Patricia Chesher https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8865/6

    RanchoCucamonga.Patricia.Chesher.PNG

    -disappeared 10 yrs before RCJD discovered -- age 12 at time of disappearance
    -front teeth may have similarities to RCJD
     
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  3. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    It looks pretty plausible, but the DNA would seem to be a ruleout.
     
  4. Moonwalker9

    Moonwalker9 Well-Known Member

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    Could she be Pem Michelle Yates Briggs, the woman Carl posted a photo of in the WCJD thread?
     
  5. alucardsdream

    alucardsdream Well-Known Member

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    Wilma's upper front teeth were false, though, so I don't think she's our JD.

    This is just one of those cases that haunts me...I hope she gets her name back soon.
     
  6. wannabeasupersleuth

    wannabeasupersleuth Active Member

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    Um....I say very good call. The teeth. Does Pem have a thread?
     
  7. digitective

    digitective Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't look like it...found this from her half-sister, though... http://www.voy.com/48081/2802.html

     
  8. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    One correction to Pem's sister's post. In case any of you are researching this, Pem's DOB was March 31, 1963 (Not May).

    However, despite the similar-looking upper-front teeth, I don't see this Jane Doe as Pem. Their looks are too dissimilar.
     
  9. creepedout

    creepedout Well-Known Member

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    Has Marcia Remick been considered for this UID?

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/946/

    The timeline doesn't make a lot of sense, but I'm not too confident that the listed date she went missing is correct. It's listed as June 5, but the "Circumstances" section says she vanished on June 9. If either or both of these dates are even slightly off, and she somehow made it to California, the pieces might fit together a little better.
     
  10. Two for the road

    Two for the road Well-Known Member

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  11. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    Of the recent suggestions, Vermaas is on the ruleouts list but Chesher, Reed, Remick, and Pem Yates/Briggs are not.

    https://identifyus.org/cases/2512

    The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
    First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
    Katherine Anderson 1954 Maryland
    Lynn Bandringa 1945 California
    Wendy Brown Unknown California
    Sandra Butler 1962 Nevada
    Benita Chamberlin 1953 Oregon
    Rose Cole 1956 California
    Lynn Connes 1955 California
    Tara Cossey 1966 California
    Brenda Crowley 1963 New York
    Eva Debruhl 1962 South Carolina
    Kmberly Doss 1962 Iowa
    Diane Genice Dye 1965 California
    Christine Eastin 1952 California
    Teresa Fittin 1957 Florida
    Nellie Flickinger 1949 Pennsylvania
    Cynthia Gooding 1958 Florida
    Lorraine Herbster 1962 New Jersey
    Paulette Jaster 1954 Michigan
    Tina Kemp 1964 Delaware
    Cindy King 1961 Oregon
    Vicke Lamberton 1949 Kansas
    Vicke Lamberton 1949 Massachusetts
    Lori Lloyd 1961 Ohio
    Ella Beth Lodermeier 1948 South Dakota
    Kim Mallon 1960 California
    Aleca Manning 1952 Arizona
    Angela Meeker 1965 Washington
    Barbara Monaco 1960 Virginia
    Cathy Moulton 1955 Maine
    Laurie Partridge 1957 Washington
    Wanda Priddy 1958 Texas
    Deborah Quimby 1963 Massachusetts
    Angela Ramsey 1961 Florida
    Simone Ridinger 1960 Massachusetts
    Sherry Roach 1959 California
    Elaine Robertson 1955 Oregon
    Elaine Robertson 1955 Washington
    Janis Sanders 1950 Michigan
    Cheryl Scherer 1959 Missouri
    Diane Schulte 1954 Idaho
    Lulaida Sejalbo 1955 California
    Sheryl Tillinghast 1956 New York
    Nadine Timm 1935 Illinois
    Wilma Vermaas 1952 California
    Arrilla Webb-Vaul 1955 Louisiana
    Rochelle White 1951 California
    April Zane 1960 Illinois
     
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    Lamour1337 New Member

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  14. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    Two new names on the ruleouts:

    Katherine Anderson 1954 Maryland
    Lynn Bandringa 1945 California
    Wendy Brown Unknown California
    Sandra Butler 1962 Nevada
    Benita Chamberlin 1953 Oregon
    Rose Cole 1956 California
    Lynn Connes 1955 California
    Tara Cossey 1966 California
    Brenda Crowley 1963 New York
    Eva Debruhl 1962 South Carolina
    Kmberly Doss 1962 Iowa
    Diane Genice Dye 1965 California
    Christine Eastin 1952 California
    Teresa Fittin 1957 Florida
    Nellie Flickinger 1949 Pennsylvania
    MP4594 Barbara Glueckert 08/21/1976 Kane IL
    Cynthia Gooding 1958 Florida
    Lorraine Herbster 1962 New Jersey
    MP13877 Nancy Jason 07/17/1977 Montgomery MD
    Paulette Jaster 1954 Michigan
    Tina Kemp 1964 Delaware
    Cindy King 1961 Oregon
    Vicke Lamberton 1949 Kansas
    Vicke Lamberton 1949 Massachusetts
    Lori Lloyd 1961 Ohio
    Ella Beth Lodermeier 1948 South Dakota
    Kim Mallon 1960 California
    Aleca Manning 1952 Arizona
    Angela Meeker 1965 Washington
    Barbara Monaco 1960 Virginia
    Cathy Moulton 1955 Maine
    Laurie Partridge 1957 Washington
    Wanda Priddy 1958 Texas
    Deborah Quimby 1963 Massachusetts
    Angela Ramsey 1961 Florida
    Simone Ridinger 1960 Massachusetts
    Sherry Roach 1959 California
    Elaine Robertson 1955 Oregon
    Elaine Robertson 1955 Washington
    Janis Sanders 1950 Michigan
    Cheryl Scherer 1959 Missouri
    Diane Schulte 1954 Idaho
    Lulaida Sejalbo 1955 California
    Sheryl Tillinghast 1956 New York
    Nadine Timm 1935 Illinois
    Wilma Vermaas 1952 California
    Arrilla Webb-Vaul 1955 Louisiana
    Rochelle White 1951 California
    April Zane 1960 Illinois
     
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    Ginger21 Well-Known Member

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    Updated rule-outs
    MP12468 Teresa Cupps 01/01/1978 Oklahoma
    MP51384 Julie Soracco 08/01/1977 El Dorado , CA

    MP4594 Barbara Glueckert 08/21/1976 Kane , IL
    MP13877 Nancy Jason 07/17/1977 Montgomery , MD
    MP6391 Angela Meeker 07/07/1979 Pierce WA
    Wendy Brown
    MP4933 Vicke Lamberton 02/01/1974 Worcester , MA
    MP4933 Vicke Lamberton 02/01/1974 Worcester , MA
    MP12212 Brenda Crowley 03/01/1979 Richmond , NY
    MP4998 Elaine Robertson 05/27/1979 Pierce , WA
    Kim Mallon
    MP5959 Rose Cole 07/01/1973 Alameda , CA
    MP5517 Rochelle White 07/30/1973 Orange , CA
    MP2386 Lynn Bandringa 05/29/1967 San Bernardino , CA
    MP8173 Christine Eastin 01/18/1971 Alameda , CA
    MP6579 Sherry Roach 06/08/1976 San Mateo , CA
    MP5977 Tara Cossey 06/06/1979 Contra Costa , CA
    MP6937 Tina Kemp 02/03/1979 Kent , DE
    MP3891 Aleca Manning 02/17/1975 Maricopa , AZ
    MP8614 Ellabeth Lodermeier 03/06/1974 Minnehaha , SD
    MP4557 Lulaida Sejalbo 11/25/1973 Santa Clara , CA
    MP8530 Janis Sanders 08/05/1975 Berrien , MI
    MP8385 Nadine Timm 11/16/1965 Will , IL
    MP734 Arrilla Webb-Vaul 03/15/1979 Bossier , LA
    MP4585 Lorraine Herbster 03/09/1979 Burlington , NJ
    MP4020 Diane Dye 07/30/1979 Santa Clara , CA
    MP5556 Eva Debruhl 06/29/1977 York , SC
    MP594 Lynn Connes 05/20/1976 Alameda , CA
    MP6496 Laurie Partridge 12/04/1974 Spokane , WA
    MP6061 Teresa Fittin 08/01/1975 Broward , FL
    MP5412 Lori Lloyd 02/11/1976 Montgomery , OH
    MP5901 Sandra Butler 06/26/1978 Washoe , NV
    MP6556 Angela Ramsey 06/21/1977 Volusia , FL
    MP6128 Cynthia Gooding 09/03/1974 Monroe , FL
    MP1689 April Zane 04/18/1977 Will , IL
    MP2065 Diane Schulte 03/25/1977 Canyon , ID
    MP1737 Nellie Flickinger 03/01/1979 Erie , PA
    MP6263 Cindy King 07/19/1977 Josephine , OR
    MP947 Barbara Monaco 08/23/1978 Virginia Beach , VA
    MP3859 Cheryl Scherer 04/17/1979 Scott , MO
    MP1721 Katherine Anderson 04/20/1979 Queen Anne's , MD
    MP869 Benita Chamberlin 02/23/1978 Lane , OR
    MP2779 Simone Ridinger 09/02/1977 Middlesex , MA
    MP3977 Cathy Moulton 09/24/1971 Cumberland , ME
    MP8072 Wanda Priddy 08/29/1978 Calhoun , TX
    MP825 Paulette Jaster 05/05/1979 Genesee , MI
    MP2919 Kimberly Doss 09/01/1982 Scott , IA
    MP1469 Deborah Quimby 05/03/1977 Middlesex , MA
    MP5489 Wilma Vermaas 04/03/1976 Los Angeles , CA
    MP3259 Sheryl Tillinghast 09/24/1973 Dutchess , NY
     
  16. Christie Harris

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    What do you think? I think they look really close. 2 are photos and 2 are her composite
     

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  17. Adrian_Almost_Sleuth

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    Who is she?
     
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  18. Christie Harris

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    The 2 photos were found in the stash of photos that Rodney Alcala had in his storage shed he had before he was arrested
     
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    Melt71 Well-Known Member

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  20. Christie Harris

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    They have been compared to post Mortem photos and it’s so close it’s crazy. She was found a week before Alcala killed Jill Parenteau in her Burbank apartment
     
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