Identified! CA - Rancho Cucamonga, WhtFem 633UFCA, 15-30, in vineyard, Jun'79 - *GRAPHIC* - Karen Marie Heverly

[Mireille]

Wow, I saw Brenda Crowley being Ruled out. But the close up of the Jane Doe's teeth, really looks a lot like hers.

Teeth image can be found here
Brenda's might have been a little more extreme however.
They also appear to be chipped?

 

[HmmMysterious]

Another girl from the Alcala photos has been suggested as a possible identity for this Jane Doe. The tip has been submitted. I don't think it her IMO
Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/Unresolved...l_from_serial_killer_rodney_alcalas/?sort=new

 

[Springrain]

Another girl from the Alcala photos has been suggested as a possible identity for this Jane Doe. The tip has been submitted. I don't think it her IMO
Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/Unresolved...l_from_serial_killer_rodney_alcalas/?sort=new

I don't see it personally, but I wouldn't be shocked if she was an Alcala victim.

 

[Springrain]

Another girl from the Alcala photos has been suggested as a possible identity for this Jane Doe. The tip has been submitted. I don't think it her IMO
Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/Unresolved...l_from_serial_killer_rodney_alcalas/?sort=new

@CarlK90245, thoughts?

 

[John/Jane Doe]

@CarlK90245, thoughts?

@CarlK90245

 

[ivonne]

post morten photo File:Rancho Cucamonga Jane Doe.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

3538DFTN- Lori Lynn Sibrell

 

[John/Jane Doe]

633UFCA

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Have you seen this child?

 

[chaddylex]

Rancho Cucamonga Jane Doe's NamUs profile has been modified on 4/22/22
She currently has 50 rule outs (with the top being most recent)
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
MP12468 Teresa Cupps 01/01/1978 Oklahoma OK
MP51384 Julie Soracco 08/01/1977 El Dorado CA
MP4594 Barbara Glueckert 08/21/1976 Kane IL
MP13877 Nancy Jason 07/17/1977 Montgomery MD
MP6391 Angel aMeeker 07/07/1979 Pierce WA
Wendy Brown CA
MP4933 Vicke Lamberton 02/01/1974 Worcester MA
MP4933 Vicke Lamberton 02/01/1974 Worcester MA
MP12212 Brenda Crowley 03/01/1979 Richmond NY
MP4998 Elaine Robertson 05/27/1979 Pierce WA
Kim Mallon CA
MP5959 Rose Cole 07/01/1973 Alameda CA.
MP5517 Rochelle White 07/30/1973 Orange CA
MP2386 Lynn Bandringa 05/29/1967 San Bernardino CA
MP8173 Christine Eastin 01/18/1971 Alameda CA
MP6579 Sherry Roach 06/08/1976 San Mateo CA
MP5977 Tara Cossey 06/10/1979 Contra Costa CA
MP6937 Tina Kemp 02/03/1979 Kent DE
MP3891 Aleca Manning 02/17/1975 Maricopa AZ
MP8614 Ellabeth Lodermeier 03/06/1974 Minnehaha SD
MP4557 Lulaida Sejalbo 11/25/1973 Santa Clara CA
MP8530 Janis Sanders 08/05/1975 Berrien MI
MP8385 Nadine Timm 11/16/1965 Will IL
MP734 Arrilla Webb-Vaul 03/15/1979 Bossier LA
MP4585 Lorraine Herbster 03/09/1979 Burlington NJ
MP4020 Diane Dye 07/30/1979 Santa Clara CA
MP5556 Eva Debruhl 06/29/1977 York SC
MP594 Lynn Connes 05/20/1976 Alameda CA
MP6496 Laurie Partridge12/04/1974 Spokane WA
MP6061 Teresa Fittin 08/01/1975 Broward FL
MP5412 Lori Lloyd 02/11/1976 Montgomery OH
MP5901 Sandra Butler 06/26/1978 Washoe NV
MP6556 Angela Ramsey 06/21/1977 Volusia FL
MP6128 Cynthia Gooding 09/03/1974 Monroe FL
MP1689 April Zane 04/18/1977 Will IL
MP2065 Diane Schulte 03/25/1977 Canyon ID
MP1737 Nellie Flickinger 03/01/1979 Erie PA
MP6263 Cindy King 07/19/1977 Josephine OR
MP947 Barbara Monaco 08/23/1978 Virginia Beach VA
MP3859 Cheryl Scherer 04/17/1979 Scott MO
MP1721 Katherine Anderson 04/20/1979 Queen Anne's MD
MP869 Benita Chamberlin 02/23/1978 Lane OR
MP2779 Simone Ridinger 09/02/1977 Middlesex MA
MP3977 Cathy Moulton 09/24/1971 Cumberland ME
MP8072 Wanda Priddy 08/29/1978 Calhoun TX
MP825 Paulette Jaster 05/05/1979 Genesee MI
MP2919 Kimberly Doss 09/01/1982 Scott IA
MP1469 Deborah Quimby 05/03/1977 Middlesex MA
MP5489 Wilma Vermaas 04/03/1976 Los Angeles CA
MP3259 Sheryl Tillinghast 09/24/1973 Dutchess NY

 

[ChatteringBirds]

What do people think of @ivonne 's suggestion above, of Lori Sibrell?
ETA: It seems her name may also be spelled "Laurie Sibrell" or "Sibrel" as well, depending what you are reading about her case.

 

[HmmMysterious]

What do people think of @ivonne 's suggestion above, of Lori Sibrell?
ETA: It seems her name may also be spelled "Laurie Sibrell" or "Sibrel" as well, depending what you are reading about her case.

Sibrell was 5'9 while RCJD was approximately 5'2, so I don't think it's a match. In addition, Sibrell weighed 130-180 lbs while RCJD only weighed 105 lbs.

 

[Springrain]

What are everyone's thoughts about her being a possible victim of Wilson Chouest?

I was reflecting on Westlake Village Jane Doe and Shirley Soosay and thinking about the murders of other (presumably non-Alcala victim) young women in California around the time and I got to thinking about Rancho Cucamonga Jane Doe. She was younger than the other two, and white while the others were Latina or Native (although that may not be relevant), but the timeline is not impossible, and she was killed with similar brutality from what we know. I didn't see any indication of her being SA'd or not SA'd, so it's up in the air AFAIK. We know Chouest raped his victims. She was nude, so it's not impossible.

I truly believe Wilson Chouest killed far more than Shirley and Westlake Village Jane Doe and likely has other victims out there. Would like to hear opinions.

 

[HmmMysterious]

Bumping. I've been thinking of RCJD a lot recently. Her face is so recognizable, yet no one has come forward. I won't be surprised if she's already being tested for genetic genealogy. Maybe she was a runaway foster child?

 

[PawneeDew]

Sibrell was 5'9 while RCJD was approximately 5'2, so I don't think it's a match. In addition, Sibrell weighed 130-180 lbs while RCJD only weighed 105 lbs.

Would that be approximate, or exact height and weight, tho?That's a significant difference in my unprofessional opinion...

 

[HmmMysterious]

Would that be approximate, or exact height and weight, tho?That's a significant difference in my unprofessional opinion...

Approximate according to Lori's page on the Doe Network
3538DFTN- Lori Lynn Sibrell
3538DFTN- Lori Lynn Sibrell

It seems as if the height for RCJD is exact, but her weight is measured at 100-110 lbs on the Doe Network. NamUs estimated her weight at 105 lbs.
633UFCA

 

[PawneeDew]

Approximate according to Lori's page on the Doe Network
3538DFTN- Lori Lynn Sibrell
3538DFTN- Lori Lynn Sibrell

It seems as if the height for RCJD is exact, but her weight is measured at 100-110 lbs on the Doe Network. NamUs estimated her weight at

Thanks.

 

[Detailz]

I think that the dentals where the chipped tooth was visable could VERY well be the result of trauma that occurred during her time with the killer. Chipped teeth, dirt in mouth, laying face down with a blow to the back of the head. In the morgue photograph there is obvious trauma to HER right ear.
So the killer was striking from the back with his right hand knocking her forward into the found position. I believe the front two top teeth originally were spaces between them.
Her hair is in the photos as BROWN.
WHY is it black in the NCMEC's composite? Carl K's was on point. Correct.

 

[Detailz]

I also believe this is a victim of Rodney Alcala.
Robin Samsoe, a 12 year old girl, was abducted on June 20,1979 by Rodney Alcala from Huntington Beach,CA while riding her bike to ballet class.
She was found July 20,1979 only about 24 miles from where the Rancho Cucamonga Jane Doe was found.
So RCJD was killed first and within that span, of time, close to a victim of Alcala's.
I believe the same killer committed both.
They even look alike.
Alcala had his photo storage in Seattle. So perhaps on the way back he could've grabbed another victim.
I think a likely person to match this Doe would be
Andria Ann Bailey

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Andria Ann Bailey was from Spanaway, WA.
She was 16 years old. The photo on Namus is NOT the correct age of her missing at 16 years old. She looks 8 to 11 in that photo.
She was left in the care of her grandmother while her parents were in the military in Germany.
She wasn't reported missing UNTIL 10 years later on October 29, 1989 by her mother.
October 29, 1979 is the day she went missing?
Reported missing the SAME day 10 years later? That date is inaccurate obviously. The shoes are consistent with those that people in Washington wear. The facial similarities are there as is the gap between the two front teeth. I've tried to find another photo of Andria Ann Bailey that's online to no avail.
This is Andria Ann Bailey missing from Spanaway, WA in 1979 at the age of 16.
Just a suggestion.

 

[Melt71]

@Detailz nice write-up. And Andria isn't shown as a comparison in Namus (and the UID isn't shown in Andria's r/out list either), so can't see if she's been ruled out. Have you submitted through the DoeNetwork site? They usually respond back to you fairly quickly to tell you if there has already been a comparison made.

 

[Crimsonrosetail]

MP34024 Henrietta Geck Cruz Avila
Not on exclusion list ^
Exclusion list [Namus] 50
*No case#, DLC, or County **Listed twice ***[page not available at the moment 7/28/22]
MP3891Aleca Manning, MP6391Angela Meeker, MP6556Angela Ramsey, MP1689April Zane,
MP734Arrilla Webb-Vaul, MP947Barbara Monaco, MP4594 Barbara Glueckert, MP869Benita Chamberlin,
MP12212Brenda Crowley, MP3977Cathy Moulton, MP3859Cheryl Scherer, MP8173Christine Eastin,
MP6263Cindy King, MP6128Cynthia Gooding, MP1469Deborah Quimby , MP2065 Diane Schulte,MP4020Diane Dye,
MP4998Elaine Robertson, MP8614Ellabeth Lodermeier, MP5556Eva Debruhl, MP8530Janis Sanders, MP51384Julie Soracco,
MP1721Katherine Anderson, *Kim Mallon, MP2919Kimberly Doss, MP6496Laurie Partridge, MP5412Lori Lloyd,
MP4585Lorraine Herbster,MP4557Lulaida Sejalbo, MP2386Lynn Bandringa, MP594 Lynn Connes, MP8385Nadine Timm***
MP13877Nancy Jason, MP1737Nellie Flickinger, MP825Paulette Jaster, MP5517 Rochelle White, MP5959 Rose Cole,
MP5901Sandra Butler, MP6579 Sherry Roach, MP3259 Sheryl Tillinghast,MP2779Simone Ridinger, MP5977Tara Cossey, MP12468Teresa Cupps, MP6061Teresa Fittin, MP6937Tina Kemp, MP4933 **Vicke Lamberton, MP8072Wanda Priddy,
*Wendy Brown, MP5489 Wilma Verma

 

[Hochman]

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