CA CA - San Diego Co., WhtFem 857UFCA, 14-17, deformed ear, overalls, Feb'78

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  1. Blurgle

    Blurgle Well-Known Member

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    Her ear looks to me like a Mozart ear, so named because the composer had them. Needless to say it isn't necessarily connected to abuse or intellectual disability.

    Ear deformities are often hereditary but in rare cases are caused by a gestational injury called constriction ring syndrome.
     


  2. Bit of hope

    Bit of hope Well-Known Member

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    Interesting note...I never heard of it. If you look into it there are many ear (and other) deformities possible. If you realize how many things can go differently during a pregnancy it makes you humble and thank full for the beauty of nature, if your baby is healthy, without deformaties. So what you actually pointed out is that an ear deformatie could also mean a possible hearing problem. Knowing a few people with deformaties, I agree, from experience, it doesn't necessarily say something about your intellectual capabilities.
     
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  3. Melt71

    Melt71 Well-Known Member

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    @CaptainJaneway did you ever get a response to submitting Wendy Eaton, who you noted was deaf in one ear and had one ear smaller than the other (your post #27 above)? www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/pa-wendy-eaton-15-media-17-may-1975.64549/page-2
     
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  4. centipede

    centipede New Member

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    New to websleuths but have been rolling this case around in my head for the last two years. I completed a film about this case in 2019, it was mostly speculative, but in making it I spoke with some people from the Otay & San Diego sheriff's department & coroner's office & was able to obtain the coroner & police reports for the case.
    Her cause of death listed in those documents is meperidine poisoning. I spoke with family members, 2 medical professionals & one retired police officer who worked near Otay/Chula Vista about this case & all of them were incredibly confused by the meperidine poisoning as cause of death. Meperidine is the generic name for Demerol, it is a narcotic pain reliever that was typically prescribed for surgeries.
     
  5. Blurgle

    Blurgle Well-Known Member

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    It's used nowadays mainly in a hospital setting but 40 years ago it was a common prescription painkiller available both from physicians and on the street.
     
  6. centipede

    centipede New Member

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    Here's a newspaper article I found through newspapers.com last year. It's from the Chula Vista Star, March 9th 1978, no new information here but thought it was worth sharing
     
  7. Bit of hope

    Bit of hope Well-Known Member

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    Welcome @centipede, good to have you here. Interesting..the poisoning with meperidine. I wonder how much of it a girl's body can "take", before there is poisoning, with dead as a result. Did you see anything in de casefile about the cause of death. Was it the meperidine or the torture, as far as you know. I hope she already passed when she was set afire. Horrible....
     
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  8. centipede

    centipede New Member

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    Thanks @Bit of hope, the coroners report lists meperidine poisoning as her cause of death. I just skimmed it again to jog my memory & double check that fact, and I think the only injuries she sustained were from the burns too. It's easy to get lost in the gruesomeness & scientific speak of the coroners report so I could be missing something.
     
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  9. Beekarina

    Beekarina Well-Known Member

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    I keep going back to Julie Soracco with this case. @centipede scroll back a page, and let me know your thoughts, if you have a moment.

    Her late grandfather was an MD, and didn't want her disappearance reported....

    Obviously, there could be other reasons, but a Physician could certainly access Demerol.....
     
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    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    about Demerol: Demerol Uses, Dosage, Side Effects & Warnings - Drugs.com

    Back when I was in college (mid 1970s), Demerol tablets were sometimes used for back trouble and extreme menstrual pain. One of the girls in my dorm had a relative who was a dentist who would prescribe it for us without asking many questions. It wasn't very tightly controlled.
     
  11. centipede

    centipede New Member

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    Thanks, for linking Julie's case, I hadn't heard about it before & there is definitely a similarity in the age, height & appearance. The 8 hour distance between Placerville & Chula Vista is quite a bit, on the forum post about Julie's case her sister mentioned Julie would hitchhike so it's not impossible for her to end up on the opposite end of the state, heading towards the boarder.

    I've been thinking about the specifics of Proctor Valley rd, where her body was discovered, since visiting in January last year & speaking with some family friends who have lived near where she was found since the 70s (who had never heard of her case). Even in 2019 Proctor Valley is still a very rural, unincorporated area, there are some houses near the start but once your on, it's nobody for miles. It's roughly 8miles of dirt road mainly used for hiking and dirt bike riding, and was difficult to drive down in my tiny car. Especially in the 70s when it would have been even less developed than it is now, it seems like a place only people familiar with the area would know was there. If anyone was around El Cajon, Chula Vista, Jamul or the other surrounding communities around the late 70s- early 80s I'm sure we would find your insight very helpful.
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    (recent google earth photo of Proctor Valley)
     
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  12. centipede

    centipede New Member

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    Thanks @carbuff & @Blurgle for this Demerol info!
     
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  13. centipede

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    I think Julie's family history would also make sense of Doe's root canal & extensive dental work described, she was taken care of. I wonder if there is any of Julie's dental information documented too.
     
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    I heard about the identification of Orange Socks as Debra Louise Jackson last night & it really impacted me. Her murder was only a year after this Jane Doe. What lead to her identification was the police commissioning a new forensic reconstruction of her, which her sister saw and believed it to be her sister Debra.

    I think it's vital to get a new reconstruction of this Doe, the two existing are very old and do not resemble each other. If anyone has resources on how to make this happen please let me know, is it best to speak with the Otay county sheriff's office or Coroner's office, or just reach out to the forensic artist directly? When I spoke with both the coroner and sheriff, neither could find documentation of where she may have been buried, I spoke with another department that deals with those affairs as well (I'm forgetting their name right now) and they were also at a loss. Hopefully they have postmortem photos of her to draw from, because I don't think they would go through the trouble of finding her body and disinterring it.
     
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  15. Victoria Chambers

    Victoria Chambers Well-Known Member

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    DNA DOE PROJECT are on Facebook and they seem to be the group who are the driving force behind numerous recent Doe's being identified. Lavender Doe, Orange Socks, Corona Girl, Lime Lady, Clark County John Doe and many more! They have forensic artists Carl Koppleman and Nathalie Murray on board and They also have numerous UID cases being worked on right now, but also they ask the page members to suggest cases to add to their ever growing list. I'm not quite sure on how they go about deciding who is eligible and who is put forth first as such. But they are basically asking for more and more people to submit DNA to Gedmatch etc and are then using familial DNA techniques for IDing purposes. Some people are more than eager to help in this way- I think most are prepared to do it without a second thought that perhaps their own family members could subsequently be caught for any historical, be it major or petty crimes whereby the culprits have left DNA.. some people ought to be shaking in their boots whilst their siblings are too busy submitting DNA to notice Haha! I've said it all along.. all newborns should be systematically swabbed and entered into the database. That would solve more than cold cases, ie. The whole world would see a significant drop in any future major criminal activities, murders, abductions, children not knowing who their parents are. It would save billions of pounds of future Government funding, put an end to funding the massive costs of trying to solve not just backlogs of cases but future ones too! X
     
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  16. Victoria Chambers

    Victoria Chambers Well-Known Member

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    For future reference only.. as with San Diego County JD78, 2 other notable missing females both whom have a deformed ear whereby 1 is noticeably lower than the other are 15yr old Barbara Louise Cotton 1981 and 17yr old Sandy Pathresa Rea 1984. X
     
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