CA - San Francisco, Skeletal Remains, 8-14, in sidewalk planter boxes, Nov'15

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  1. pappa rob

    pappa rob New Member

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    Child bones found in planter box in San Francisco. http://news.yahoo.com/video/gruesome-discovery-child-bones-found-035345066.html
    http://abc7news.com/news/child-bones-found-in-planter-box-in-san-francisco/1125878/

    A woman gardening in San Francisco found a bone belonging to a child. Two bones were discovered at two apartment buildings at McAllister and Steiner streets, a block from Alamo Square Park, near the iconic row of Victorian houses called the "Painted Ladies". The planter boxes were put on the porch by a tenant in 2007 and a couple of weeks ago, she was trying to save the plants, but throw out the boxes after discovering they had termites. That is when she found a human bone in the soil.
     
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  3. EllieBee

    EllieBee Former Member

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    Whoa!

    So of this lady is the one to have purchased and planted the boxes in 2007 (no coffee yet, sorry if I am not reading this right), then someone came onto her porch and buried a child's bones in her planter? :gasp:

    Okay....had a few sips of coffee. Re-read and see that it is an apartment building. Less brazen than if this were a private, detatched home. But, STILL.......
     
  4. EllieBee

    EllieBee Former Member

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    And where is the rest of the child's remains?
     
  5. pappa rob

    pappa rob New Member

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    It sounded like someone else built the boxes. " the planter boxes were put on the porch by a tenant in 2007" http://abc7news.com/news/child-bones-found-in-planter-box-in-san-francisco/1125878/
     
  6. AlphaWolf

    AlphaWolf New Member

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    seems very hastily ....hopefully someone remembers something..
     
  7. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    I'm reading it that a previous tenant in 2007 built the planters (quite elaborate ones, judging by the picture) and the woman was trying to save the plants that tenant left behind. So not the same person. But it's not real clear, is it?
     
  8. webweaved

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    Interesting story...they definitely needed to word it better. The person who originally made the planters is not the same person that was removing plants from the planters recently. Here is more....they are now considering the bones might be linked to a cold case...

    "Police put up the crime tape to preserve not only the planter boxes, but the dirt around the building. Anthropologists set up tents where they sifted through dirt, wondering if there were other body parts.

    Toomey says the last time he can remember a similar police operation was two years ago in a house about a mile away in the Haight-Ashbury neighborhood. That is when investigators tore up the basement floor when cadaver dogs located bones in a house once occupied by a person of interest in the disappearance of Kevin Collins -- the 10-year-old boy who has been missing since 1984. However, the bones found turned out to be from an animal.

    This latest discovery brings Toomey back to that cold case. He said, "The only case that I know of, of a child that is unsolved and the child's body has not been found is Kevin Collins in San Francisco. So when something like this happens... I mean, you have to think that way. Investigators are waiting for test results."

    http://abc7news.com/news/retired-sf-homicide-inspector-hopes-childs-bones-solves-cold-case/1127314/
     
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  10. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    Migmuu New Member

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    http://abc7chicago.com/news/child-bones-found-in-planter-boxes-in-san-francisco/1127782/
    http://www.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2...e-requires-a-lot-of-science-and-a-bit-of-luck
    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...er-Box-in-San-Francisco-Police-362746031.html

    Child skeletal remains were found in two planter boxes in the Alamo Square area of San Francisco.

    A woman gardening found the bones, which reportedly include a mandible and several molars, while throwing out a planter box that had become infested with termites. The boxes were placed there sometime in 2007, so it's likely the child has been dead for at least eight years. The age, race and sex of the child are all unknown.

    There's some speculation that the bones belong to Kevin Collins, a 10-year-old who went missing in San Francisco in 1984. The Charley Project classifies his case as a non-family abduction.
     
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    ClaireNC WS Member

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  13. rats

    rats Where is Justice for the Jane and John Does?

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    "A resident made the discovery Nov. 23 while gardening, police said. "

    should the title be changed? im not sure what the actual date is...?

    "While one media outlet reported the bones belonged to a child, police and the medical examiner's office would not confirm that information.

    "At this point, the investigation is still ongoing," Gatpandan said. "

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...vestigation-human-remains-20151217-story.html

    either way, this is so sad... the fact that this person (kid?) couldve been there for all those years...
     
  14. JerricaBenton

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    How sad, unidentified child bones make me very sad :(
     
  15. JusticeWillBeServed

    JusticeWillBeServed Active Member

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    Human bones found in planters outside San Francisco home belonged to a child and another person

     
  16. Tony1902

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    Having gardened for more than 40 years, I usually use a pre-mixed soil in a planter, which would already have the soil amendments I'd need. It sounds as if the planter was not fitted with a pre-installed drip emitter, & if the plants were root-bound, there'd be no way the bones could have gotten into the soil after then. I'd be looking at who made/purchased the planters & used soil from a burial site..ugh, hard to write that, instead of a bagged mix.
     
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    Or the original box builder, assuming they were the original soil filler and planter, used bagged mix and stuck in bones as "trophies" - how sick to know that for years you and others are walking past planters that have bones.
     
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    This is a horrible discovery. I was in SF over the summer working and actually happened to walk down that street, passed that apartment a few times. Makes you think.
     
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    That's a good one to look at. I guess we wait on them to release the race/ethnicity of the bones, etc. They *should* be able to tell. I'll keep checking back. Here is an updated article. The bones actually belong to TWO different people--1 child and 1 adult. The skeletal remains are not full skeletons either. Read more here:
    http://www.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2016/01/14/bones-from-two-people-not-one-found-in-planter-box
     
  21. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    The article sounds like they think there's a possibility that they're body parts from surgery that were improperly disposed of. That's creepy and disgusting, but far better than the other explanations.
     

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