Match! CA - San Francisco, WhtFem body, ~40, Jul'10 *Nancy Barrett*

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  1. zinc

    zinc Member

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    San Francisco Chronicle: Help sought in identifying dead woman in S.F.
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/09/01/BA5P1F7BN0.DTL
    The street where the woman was found is roughly in the Marina District-Cow Hollow area, which as a whole is not a shady place — lots of yuppies, fairly well-off types, nightclubs in some areas — but that stretch of Lombard has a whole bunch of motels, most of them privately run, I think. Given that she has gone this long without being identified, it is possible that she was a drug addict, sex worker, or otherwise homeless. She may also simply have been traveling.

    That she was wearing several shirts in July is not necessarily meaningful in San Francisco, since summers in the Bay Area are generally cool and this one has been one of the coldest on record.

    Roadside Lumber & Hardware, Inc. is based in Agoura Hills, California, which is about 30 miles northwest of Los Angeles, between Simi Valley near the hills and Malibu on the coast.

    (Attachments are pencil sketches of the UID.)

    Edited to add: As of September 1, 2010, she is not yet in NamUs.
     

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  3. RubyRed

    RubyRed "Keep on Truckin"

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    Julessleuther New Member

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    Okay, Dolly Perez seems highly unlikely - she'd be 57 now and was only 5'2". The UID was 5'8".

    Crystal Fox is much more promising IMO.

    Height - 5'7" vs 5'8 (UID). 1" discrepancy is a reporting error.

    Weight - 110 vs 129. Normally people don't gain weight when they're homeless but we're only talking 19lbs from an unusually low starting point for the height. Both women could be described as tall and thin. This might also be a reporting error, e.g., from an old driver's license.

    Hair color - Crystal would be 31 now. That's young to go gray, but if she were homeless, she might not be dying it, and she's not too young to be graying. The UID seems facially younger than 40. UID is described as having "gray and brown hair." A friend of mine had similar color hair to Crystal's when younger. Now, at 33, he is graying slightly and his hair appears more brown.

    Circumstances - Crystal's car was found near the Golden Gate Bridge, possibly as little as 2 miles from the UID's location. Her disappearance is consistent with suicide or a mental breakdown - and if the latter, 1.5 years of homelessness in SFO is not difficult to reconcile. Her father says:

    If she had truly hit rock bottom, she might have sold her car first (a good '96 Tercel is still worth $1k or so) but if she were ending a relationship too, she might simply have walked away, been too ashamed, confused or just poor to make contact, and then sadly ended her own life. It certainly sounds as though she was not in the tightest contact with her family, and that she was experiencing a difficult situation before her disappearance.
     
  6. tatertot

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    Here's an article with a fourth drawing the previous article didn't include, a side-view of the woman wearing her ballcap:

    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2010/09/dead_woman_motel_lombard.php

    July 2010 article from when she was found. Note the information that the lumber company was able to account for all its employees:

    http://www.ktvu.com/news/24310511/detail.html

    Her ballcap might be important yet. The lumber company's site states that they have over 100 employees and sell to contractors as well as the general public. As sexist as this sounds, exactly how many pink ballcaps would they have made with the company name printed on them? Would these have been given away as promotions or only to employees?
     
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    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144695&highlight=2010

    Nancy Barrett seems to be a possibility?

    http://www.smdp.com/Articles-c-2011-07-18-72207.113116-Venice-woman-still-missing-after-a-year.html

    <snipped>
     
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    I have submitted Nancy Barrett's name for consideration in case #9170 to the Namus ME and Case Manager.
     
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    --- On Tue, 1/24/12, Jana.Tawney@sfgov.org <Jana.Tawney@sfgov.org> wrote:

    From: Jana.Tawney@sfgov.org <Jana.Tawney@sfgov.org>
    Subject: Re: NamUs - Identify - 9170
    To: <redacted>
    Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 4:35 PM

    Hi XXXX,

    I want to say thank you, Nancy Barrett was a match. She is now officially identified and her family has been notified. <rest of message redacted>

    Sincerely,

    Jana Tawney, BA
    Public Service Aide
    Office of the Chief Medical Examiner
    City and County of San Francisco
     
  11. Kimster

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    FANTASTIC Summer Breeze!!! Oh my gosh! I'm so excited! :skip: Nancy gets to go home!

    And that was FAST!!!
     
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    Bless you-I am so very glad that Nancy is going home to those who love her.

    :hug:
     
  13. Kimster

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    I like to analyze these cases to help with future sleuthing. With this one, I wonder how Nancy got all the way up to San Fran when LE reported they thought she was still in the area? :waitasec:
     
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    Great Job SB-You brought a long lost family member home and a family closure!! RIP Nancy
     
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  16. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    Excellent job summer_breeze! So glad Nancy's family has answers and she has her name back.

    Sleep peacefully, Nancy.
     
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    Great job, Summer Breeze! RIP Nancy. I'll be praying for comfort for her family.
     
  18. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    I'm curious to know if Nancy's case was in NamUs. I didn't find it in the missing info/support forum thread. Does anyone know if LAPD entered Nancy's case into NamUs or was it just the MSM articles?


    ETA: This match got me wondering about how many cases are in MSM only and never make it into NamUs. That is if Nancy's case was not in NamUs. :waitasec:
     
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    Wow! I am really impressed summer_breeze! Amazing job!
     
  20. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    I answered my own question. It looks like Nancy's missing persons case is in NamUs.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/11880/0/

    Her NamUs case file indicates she was possibly wearing the green cargo pants, same as listed with the decedent.

    Copying over the namus case file information before it is removed. (both the UID and MP cases have not yet been closed out of NamUs) sorry the carry over is so jumbled. Wondering why this wasn't picked up by NamUs, other than the obvious that DNA and Dentals are not listed for the MP. (or are listed as not available). I hope NamUs is hitting on information other than if only DNA and Dentals are available. Not trying to negate the match, it is an excellent job and excellent example of why human eyes still need to look through these databases. Just curious as to what NamUs is missing.

    Case Report - NamUs MP # 11880


    Case Information

    Status Missing First name Nancy Middle name Last name Barrett Nickname/Alias
    Date LKA July 14, 2010 16:45 Date entered 08/04/2011
    Age LKA 53 to years old Age now Unknown
    DOB Race White Ethnicity Sex Female
    Height (inches) 68.0
    Weight (pounds)150.0

    Circumstances

    City Venice (Los Angeles) State California Zip code County Los Angeles
    Circumstances Barrett was last seen on July 14, 2010, around 4:45 p.m. in the area of her home in the 2600 block of Grand Canal Court in the Venice area.

    Barrett moved from her apartment to her car, which was parked in front her former home. She abandoned her car and possessions and left the area under unknown circumstances. She has not been seen or heard from since.

    She may be in the Venice Beach or Santa Monica areas.


    Physical

    Hair color Brown Head hair It is now likely that Barrett’s hair is extremely gray.
    Body hair
    Facial hair
    Left eye color Brown Right eye color Brown Eye description
    No known distinctive body features
    Distinctive features as described below Amputations
    Deformities
    Scars and marks
    Tattoos
    Piercings
    Artificial body parts
    and aids
    Finger and toe nails
    Other distinctive
    physical characteristics


    Medical

    Medical implants
    Foreign objects
    Skeletal information


    Clothing and Accessories

    Clothing and accessories are unknown
    Clothing and accessories are described below
    Clothing She may have been wearing green cargo pants and a tan sweater
    Footwear
    Jewelry
    Eyewear
    Accessories

    Transportation Methods

    Vehicle make
    Vehicle model Year Style Vehicle color Tag type Tag number Tag state Expiration year
    Vehicle comments
    Airline
    Bus


    Dental

    Status Dental information / charting is currently not available
    DNA

    Status:Sample is currently not available

    Fingerprint Information

    Status:Fingerprint information is currently not available

    Police Information

    TitleDetectiveFirst nameM.Last nameCiuffetelli JurisdictionLocalAgencyLAPD Missing Persons UnitAddress 1Address 2CityLos AngelesStateCaliforniaZip codePhone213-996-1800Emailmissingpersons@lapd.lacity.orgWebsitehttp://www.lapdonline.org/Case number101417729Date reportedComments
     
  21. Salem

    Salem Former Member

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    Woo Hoo Summer!!!!!

    Good job.

    Blessings to Nancy's family. May she rest in peace.

    It looks like she lost some weight between when the picture was taken and when the artist did the sketch. :(

    Salem
     

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