Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #18

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  1. snowboots

    snowboots New Member

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    Honestly, I don't know who John Kelly is, but this makes the most sense to me of any of the theories I've read. A lot of people in SP's situation would probably do the same thing, especially if they had young children. JMO
     


  2. Hope4More

    Hope4More Well-Known Member

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    Still think this scenario makes the most sense. Two women involved in the drug trade or something similar, travelling along the I-5 corridor, the Papini's (old) home is a hop skip and jump from that corridor, the 2 take a brief detour from the 5 or are more purposefully right in SP's area, they see a very young looking very white woman all by herself, no one else on sight, they snatch her, with vague plans of selling her to folks they know are in that trade.

    But, they find out fairly quickly she's married (wedding ring) and she tells them she has kids. Not what they were thinking, ups the risk, but they've already kidnapped her, and things can still work out.

    But, the publicity comes quickly and becomes increasingly intensive. Their associates don't want any part of it unless the PR settles down, but it doesn't. They're stuck with her. Then the ransom becomes an open invitation for bounty hunters to start searching, or anyone else who might have seen them or who knows them to snitch, and they need to end the limbo. One wants to kill her, the other releases her.

    Yah, speculation, but yah, stranger things have happened.
     
  3. DexterMorgan

    DexterMorgan Well-Known Member

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    If an obese stay at home mom was abducted just like SP. Would we still jump to the trafficking scenario?

    Just asking.

    So if not. Then what other theories would come into our minds?
     
  4. Classy1

    Classy1 New Member

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    Lake, I'm wondering if you know if SP was wearing her wedding ring when she was taken?
     
  5. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly right. But it is often a loosely connected group of criminals. So let's say 2 women have been working for a trafficking ring, doing odd jobs, watching over the girls, etc. And after years of seeing their bosses getting RICH, they decide they want to step up their game.

    So maybe they get sent to 'drop off' some of the women, to another crew. So they have a gun and some chains etc inside the suv. And they drop off the 'merchandise' and get the money for their boss. And they see how much money the 'merchandise' can be sold for....

    So they decide to get their own women to sell, and make the big money themselves. Because they have 'contacts' and think they can do it without giving all the money to their boss everytime.

    And maybe SP was in the wrong place at the wrong time when these motivated, greedy, inexperienced criminals came driving down the street.
     
  6. Classy1

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    No,I don't think so.
     
  7. KaaBoom

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    His bio says he is the co-host of the Discovery Network series Dark Minds. I agree, he makes sense.
     
  8. yllek

    yllek Well-Known Member

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    From what I've read, Salfen hasn't indicated leaning toward any motive. He's expressed happiness that Sherri was released and finds that and some other aspects of the case unique (my paraphrase).

    Interviews:
    http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/12/...estigator-helped-in-search-for-sherri-papini/
    http://fox40.com/2016/12/01/private-investigator-hired-by-keith-papini-weighs-in-on-kidnapping-case/
     
  9. Madeleine74

    Madeleine74 Knower of Things

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    Seems like "sex trafficking" has become the new "bushy haired stranger." A catch-all that is convenient to assert for perps even if there is no evidence of that occurring. And if it's not "sex trafficking" then someone will say it's "the mafia." Those must be the 2 common stories on the crime dramas as that's what seems to stick in people's minds as the theories du-jour.

    [There is a missing (presumed dead) 5 yr old girl out of AZ, a case from a few years ago. Despite no evidence suggesting it, people insisted it was either sex traffickers or the mafia out to teach the little girl's father a lesson. Some claim the girl was taken by the Mexican mafia and is living somewhere in Mexico, again with no evidence. Meanwhile the family hasn't been ruled out, but never mind that. Cue the mafia.]
     
  10. Classy1

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    The more I think about this case, the more I think it's highly possible that SP wasn't abducted by two women. I'm thinking that she either lied to LE out of fear for her family. Or that she told LE what they really looked like and the public is being told otherwise so as to protect the family, as I think SP was probably threatened that if she said anything that would lead LE to them, they'd come after her and her family. I can't imagine that after 22 days, all that she could know about the perps is the kind of eyebrows they had and their hair color/length. There has to be more info about them that Sherri has shared with LE and has not been released.
     
  11. Lake16

    Lake16 Verified Insider

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    I believe KP or the Sheriff stated all of her personal belongings were left at home with the exception of the phone. Whether that included her wedding ring, which family members have told me she is very protective of and takes off for washing dishes, gardening and showering, I do not know.
     
  12. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers not today satan

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    In response to a bunch of comments:

    A tattoo (made with needle and ink) can represent a "brand" as in a marking or logo or symbol, but a brand ( made by hot metal) - no matter if it's a symbol or words - is never a tattoo.

    In SP's case, IMO, the implication is she was branded with heated metal, not marked with ink.
     
  13. kanzz

    kanzz kanzz=kansas

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    Lake16 - Your input and insight is very much appreciated.

    This exchange took place last night after you logged off:
    Based on a couple of things you've posted previously:
    "I believe the Sheriff said she was released by one abductor, not both. I suggest you take that statement literally."
    "I believe there were a number of factors. Publicity, sympathy, and fear of apprehension."

    I wonder what your thoughts are about this speculation.
     
  14. DexterMorgan

    DexterMorgan Well-Known Member

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    Agree.

    Just because SP is decent looking.

    That doesn't mean it had to be sex trafficking.

    Especially since she wasn't passed off to no men. Jmo

    She was supposedly abducted by women and released by a woman after 22 days.

    But we have never heard of any other female that went through this same thing without hearing that men were involved as well.

    So if men were involved.

    Then why would they only mention 2 women with guns?
     
  15. skibaboo

    skibaboo Mrs Map

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    I don't know who John Kelly is either but he seems to be thinking what I have been thinking, and yes it does make a lot of sense. Time will tell, I hope.
     
  16. Hope4More

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    Since there hasn't been enough info released to know what happened, if that info is even known by LE, obviously every idea here is nothing more than a guess.

    Some seem more confident about their guesses, some less, but that's all they are. ;)
     
  17. Classy1

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    I have a hunch there were men involved and that for whatever reason is not being released to the general public.
     
  18. dc211

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    Would LE knowingly mislead the public about the race and gender the suspects? Can you imagine the controversy if a white man abducted SP and LE let the public believe it was two Hispanic women?

    Also why would LE withhold information about the suspects and their vehicle? Unless they have a really good idea who took SP that information would help the investigation much more if it were released to the public.
     
  19. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers not today satan

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    Yes. This. Thank you!!
     
  20. Ibiz

    Ibiz Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.

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    Bing! Again! I think you got it! Great job!
     
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